1967 Topps high # "unofficial" price guide

[rsdill2]

Originally Posted by glynparson

There are several I would buy every copy you can get me at some of those prices.

Totally agree. My "price guide" is essentially an if you can buy an EX or better copy at that price, do it.

[parkerj33]

Having spent a lot of time with this set a few years ago, i am with DaveH, and there really aren't dp and sp, but 4p, 3p, and 2p....and those prices listed are super low for many....a 583 barker for $15? only a beater.

specifically, summaryizing dave's post:

for each FULL 264-card 7th series sheet:

44 cards are printed 4 times - these are the true fairly-easy "double prints" - and we have solid evidence that these are truly 2x rows on each sheet.
22 cards are printed 3 times - these are in between!
11 cards are printed 2 times - these are the true TOUGHIES (including seaver rookie). "single prints"

I don't know why topps didn't just print all 88 cards 3 times across the two sheets....thus they would all be regular prints.

[rsdill2]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Having spent a lot of time with this set a few years ago, i am with DaveH, and there really aren't dp and sp, but 4p, 3p, and 2p....and those prices listed are super low for many....a 583 barker for $15? only a beater.

specifically, summaryizing dave's post:

for each FULL 264-card 7th series sheet:

44 cards are printed 4 times - these are the true fairly-easy "double prints" - and we have solid evidence that these are truly 2x rows on each sheet.
22 cards are printed 3 times - these are in between!
11 cards are printed 2 times - these are the true TOUGHIES (including seaver rookie). "single prints"

I don't know why topps didn't just print all 88 cards 3 times across the two sheets....thus they would all be regular prints.

I think the 583 Barker $15 is pretty close. Checking ebay recent sales there's over a dozen that have sold for < $20 including several solid raw examples and even a PSA 5 that sold for $20 BIN. Again, my prices listed are what I consider a "don't pass up" price. If you can buy an EX or better one at that price, do it.

[TheNightmanCometh]

I just completed my '67 Topps Braves run and the 546 Woodward and 591 Cline were two of the last cards I got because the pricing was always more than I wanted to spend; I mean $20+ for a centered common just because it's a high number? I just couldn't pull the trigger. Thankfully, with a lot of patience, I was able to get both for $11 and $13 respectively. I would definitely put the Woodward as EX, but the Cline could definitely grade better; and both were centered so I'm more than thrilled with that outcome.

[blackandgold]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Having spent a lot of time with this set a few years ago, i am with DaveH, and there really aren't dp and sp, but 4p, 3p, and 2p....and those prices listed are super low for many....a 583 barker for $15? only a beater.

specifically, summaryizing dave's post:

for each FULL 264-card 7th series sheet:

44 cards are printed 4 times - these are the true fairly-easy "double prints" - and we have solid evidence that these are truly 2x rows on each sheet.
22 cards are printed 3 times - these are in between!
11 cards are printed 2 times - these are the true TOUGHIES (including seaver rookie). "single prints"

I don't know why topps didn't just print all 88 cards 3 times across the two sheets....thus they would all be regular prints.

I have been working on this set for a while, and other than the Mantle and Seaver, the high numbers are what is slowing my progress. I'm not too condition conscious, but some of the cards are hotly contested even in less than perfect shape.
I really enjoy reading the information found on this board, and recently found this thread, and the above post has me confused. There are 75 cards from 534-609, yet the post suggests printing "all 88". Am I missing something? I'm guessing there's a simple explanation, but my mind isn't as sharp as it used to be.
Thanks in advance for any help.

[parkerj33]

My mistake, there are 77 cards in the 7th series, the 66 from 534-609 + the 7th series checklist #531 (which was printed on 6th series sheets AND on 7th series sheets). Its all there in dave hornish's blog post linked above as post #4.

[parkerj33]

By the way, one VERY likely reason that Rich Klein's data from the vending hoard find regarding cards less printed than others (like brooks) is that many times topps will offer vending lots that only come FROM ONE HALF sheet. I see this today with some Heritage offerings where large retail excess product that i have access too at deep discounts cards from one entire 110 card half-sheet run printed in much lower quantities.

now its still a mystery to me why topps would be missing half the print run, but its also possible that back in 1967 there was another vending case "find" that represented the other half sheet.....that was consumed by the public long before it was around to be found.