1954 Topps PSA fake Aarons

[glynparson]

? that is not a $100 card raw. Heck you can get a psa 10 ff for less than a $100 if you look long enough. All these mis cropped cards are fake from what i have seen and has no value. I do agree the grader should certainly be looking for a job or at least retrained in 1980's issues. I am more concerned when they screw up exhibits now they are well known counterfeits. Most collectors have not given this card much mind since 1989. I am of course exempting the die hards and the legitimate tough variations of it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by glynparson

? that is not a $100 card raw. Heck you can get a psa 10 ff for less than a $100 if you look long enough. All these mis cropped cards are fake from what i have seen and has no value. I do agree the grader should certainly be looking for a job or at least retrained in 1980's issues. I am more concerned when they screw up exhibits now they are well known counterfeits. Most collectors have not given this card much mind since 1989. I am of course exempting the die hards and the legitimate tough variations of it.

LOL, You don't have a clue.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, You don't have a clue.

Take a step back before you embarrass yourself further.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, You don't have a clue.

I find this reply strange as well. Here'a a link to a PSA 10 ff BIN for $99. I think glynparson was pretty accurate in his assessment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Fleer-6...UAAOSwEeFU3lC9

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I find this reply strange as well. Here'a a link to a PSA 10 ff BIN for $99. I think glynparson was pretty accurate in his assessment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Fleer-6...UAAOSwEeFU3lC9

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

So you're saying the counterfeit version is actually worth more than the real card? I had no idea.

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

So you're saying the counterfeit version is actually worth more than the real card? I had no idea.

Me either....Mind blown!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

Why would anyone other than a relative be a hard core Bill Ripken collector??

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would anyone other than a relative be a hard core Bill Ripken collector??

The fact that there are hard core Bill Ripken collectors is almost as strange as a raw reprint being worth more than a PSA 10 original. Or a PSA 2 original for that matter.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would anyone other than a relative be a hard core Bill Ripken collector??

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

The fact that there are hard core Bill Ripken collectors is almost as strange as a raw reprint being worth more than a PSA 10 original. Or a PSA 2 original for that matter.

LOL, I know it sounds weird but really what part of grown men collecting baseball cards is not weird?

It is mainly the 89 Fleer Bill Ripken cards that are highly collected. I only know a couple people that collect his other cards. Why that counterfeit version carries a huge premium is a mystery also. I know I sold one in VG-EX condition at best for $75 about a year ago.

Not 100% sure on the date, I think that counterfeit version started showing up around 15 years ago. Around 13 total have been found and up to recently most believed it to be a real variation/test proof.

If anyone would be interested here is a nice website dedicated to the real 89 Fleer Bill Ripken card. http://www.billripken.com/