1954 Topps PSA fake Aarons

[glynparson]

is worth less than grading. Smart move by the counterfitters. PSA mistake not the same as a reseal job.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

What gives that one away as a fake?

Easy way from the picture is the recropped picture in the middle. In hand they are not even close to a real card. Thinner card stock, dot pattern in grey bars is different, cards are cut small, ink quality, obvious signs of being rescreened, I could go on and on. The person that graded this card as real should not have a job grading cards.

Originally Posted by glynparson

is worth less than grading. Smart move by the counterfitters. PSA mistake not the same as a reseal job.

Yes just the normal happens several times a day PSA mistake. It is a well known counterfeit card that sells for around $100 raw. PSA has slabbed 4 of them and to my knowledge none have been sold on the open market and all 4 are owned by different Net54 members.

[glynparson]

? that is not a $100 card raw. Heck you can get a psa 10 ff for less than a $100 if you look long enough. All these mis cropped cards are fake from what i have seen and has no value. I do agree the grader should certainly be looking for a job or at least retrained in 1980's issues. I am more concerned when they screw up exhibits now they are well known counterfeits. Most collectors have not given this card much mind since 1989. I am of course exempting the die hards and the legitimate tough variations of it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by glynparson

? that is not a $100 card raw. Heck you can get a psa 10 ff for less than a $100 if you look long enough. All these mis cropped cards are fake from what i have seen and has no value. I do agree the grader should certainly be looking for a job or at least retrained in 1980's issues. I am more concerned when they screw up exhibits now they are well known counterfeits. Most collectors have not given this card much mind since 1989. I am of course exempting the die hards and the legitimate tough variations of it.

LOL, You don't have a clue.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, You don't have a clue.

Take a step back before you embarrass yourself further.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, You don't have a clue.

I find this reply strange as well. Here'a a link to a PSA 10 ff BIN for $99. I think glynparson was pretty accurate in his assessment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Fleer-6...UAAOSwEeFU3lC9

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I find this reply strange as well. Here'a a link to a PSA 10 ff BIN for $99. I think glynparson was pretty accurate in his assessment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Fleer-6...UAAOSwEeFU3lC9

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

So you're saying the counterfeit version is actually worth more than the real card? I had no idea.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I was talking about the counterfeit version in the PSA slab in raw form being a $100 card. You should be able to get a real F Face PSA 10 version for $70-$80 pretty easily. My value is only on that exact counterfeit version. I would agree that all the other counterfeit versions out there are worthless. That one has a cult following among the hard core Bill Ripken collectors.

Why would anyone other than a relative be a hard core Bill Ripken collector??

[Snapolit1]

In the card above, what the heck is "FF ERROR" by PSA supposed to mean? Besides possibly "'Effin' Fake".

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

In the card above, what the heck is "FF ERROR" by PSA supposed to mean? Besides possibly "'Effin' Fake".

http://www.fangraphs.com/not/the-sto...fck-face-card/