Alert: a tale of two 51B Mantles

[Jobu]

Stuff like this scares the shite out of me, especially as I have been considering getting a 51 Mantle. Thanks for posting it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Stuff like this scares the shite out of me, especially as I have been considering getting a 51 Mantle. Thanks for posting it.

One of the more noxious forms of hobby fraud, though of course far from the only one. Restores your faith in humanity, doesn't it?

[steve B]

Unfortunately it's nothing new especially with this card.

In I think 1982 maybe 81 a dealer I know showed me a 51 Mantle and asked me what I thought about it. After a few minutes of looking at it I said "It's in beautiful condition, but it's fake. I can't put my finger on anything in particular, but it's just "wrong" "

Apparently that was the opinion of the dealer and also of the 4-5 other dealers who had passed on buying it earlier. Nobody could point to anything and say "it's fake because of this. " but everyone thought it was fake.

I wonder where that card is today, it was very convincing, and if it wasn't for being able to handle stacks of Bowmans pretty much everywhere back then it might not be obvious.

Steve B

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by steve B

Unfortunately it's nothing new especially with this card.

In I think 1982 maybe 81 a dealer I know showed me a 51 Mantle and asked me what I thought about it. After a few minutes of looking at it I said "It's in beautiful condition, but it's fake. I can't put my finger on anything in particular, but it's just "wrong" "

Apparently that was the opinion of the dealer and also of the 4-5 other dealers who had passed on buying it earlier. Nobody could point to anything and say "it's fake because of this. " but everyone thought it was fake.

I wonder where that card is today, it was very convincing, and if it wasn't for being able to handle stacks of Bowmans pretty much everywhere back then it might not be obvious.

Steve B

you would think that there are flips that look exactly like the original..it seems everyone is counting on the font being different or hyphen but we all know there will be exact lookalikes of the flip eventually...the card will never be exactly alike but its obvious there are graded cards out there that will be impossible to tell on the internet that people are buying that are fakes

[Peter_Spaeth]

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