Alert: a tale of two 51B Mantles

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's worthless to try. I told Joe Orlando who says he told ebay, still no action was taken.

I find this statement very concerning. It's one thing when some random people report a card as fraud. Although a lot of you guys are obviously experts ebay doesn't know that. But to have essentially the head of PSA tell them a card is a fraud and they still let someone spend 5k on it? Not good.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I find this statement very concerning. It's one thing when some random people report a card as fraud. Although a lot of you guys are obviously experts ebay doesn't know that. But to have essentially the head of PSA tell them a card is a fraud and they still let someone spend 5k on it? Not good.

its an easy lawsuit against ebay if that happens and the card is fake...and the buyer cant collect back from the seller he could go after ebay

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

its an easy lawsuit against ebay if that happens and the card is fake...and the buyer cant collect back from the seller he could go after ebay

good luck "going after ebay."

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

good luck "going after ebay."

man ebay is the juiciest thing around ..not sure why you made that comment...you should mean 'good luck going after poor guy that sells fake cards that's a criminal' you can find MANY lawyers that will sue ebay on a slam dunk case.....next you will say good luck going after Wal-Mart because they are such a big company.....its exactly the opposite the bigger the company the more likely you can find a lawyer who will take his or her chances..

there have been class actions against ebay...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yup. Haven't read enough to have an opinion on the merits though.



eBay, PayPal Face Class Action over Counterfeit Goods



August 20 2015

ebay.jpg Los Angeles, CA: Claims of consumer fraud have been filed against eBay® and PayPal® and various eBay Sellers in Federal Court under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and the Lanham Act claiming the defendants knowingly and deliberately facilitate, proliferate and profit from the ongoing sale of counterfeit and fake products on ebay.com.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yup. Haven't read enough to have an opinion on the merits though.



eBay, PayPal Face Class Action over Counterfeit Goods



August 20 2015

ebay.jpg Los Angeles, CA: Claims of consumer fraud have been filed against eBay® and PayPal® and various eBay Sellers in Federal Court under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and the Lanham Act claiming the defendants knowingly and deliberately facilitate, proliferate and profit from the ongoing sale of counterfeit and fake products on ebay.com.

right so an example already from just 3 months ago....yeah 'good luck going after ebay' maybe that's with phone calls or messages....but lawsuits are a different animal. Its easy enough to find someone to sue ebay and if they have merit...ie. PSA contacting them prior to the sale telling them they are fake' you would think that's enough merit to find attorneys who if successful can collect thousands if not millions in fees.... just a wild guess..



heres a case of a getting 1.2 million over a $36 dollar listing....good luck going after ebay...

http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y15/m10/i12/s01

[ullmandds]

ok...so my command of the law sucks...BUT...for a $5-$15 award per person affected...doesn't seem worth it.