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Old 11-11-2015, 04:41 PM
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Bobby before you get too excited no one started a thread about you.

So since you believe there are no deals ever on EBAY would you have hit the BIN on this auction had you been fortunate enough to see if first?

"One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real."

These are your comments. Since it is real it is "hot". Or in normal terms stolen.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:29 PM
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Bobby before you get too excited no one started a thread about you.

So since you believe there are no deals ever on EBAY would you have hit the BIN on this auction had you been fortunate enough to see if first?

"One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real."

These are your comments. Since it is real it is "hot". Or in normal terms stolen.
Not always....but usually the case. There is more to it than that though. When a seller sells 9,999 $3 Pokemon cards, is he all of the sudden going to have 3-4 baseball cards (smoker ones at that)? Maybe so, usually not. What if he sold, say, one big one?? A 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 5? Would you think it was legit? Look...I didn't mean for this thread to be antagonistic. But when a deal is too good to be true.....Would you feel silly if these cards DID INDEED turn out to be stolen? Would you issue me an apology?

And yes, I'm aware of the snarkiness on the PSA board. I read KBCards comments. If anyone else beside me posted that, this wouldn't even be an issue. Everyone always checks out sellers history to see if cards they are selling are legitimate (they have a history of selling high dollar cards vs them selling Tupperware 99% of the time). However, because it is me pointing out the obvious, everyone is up in arms about it. Oh well. If I can help someone get their stolen items back, then I will do it again in a heartbeat. If the cards are somehow legit, no harm no foul. However, these cards have more Red Flags associated with them than anyone cares to admit.

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Old 11-12-2015, 03:24 PM
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As usual, Dpeck is right again. Nobody started a thread about you. The thread was started 27 days before this one. His OP was just to talk about his excitement about his purchase. The day after this thread was started, he referenced it, in the 74th post in that thread. How narcissistic do you have to be to say "somebody started a thread about me" when you're not mentioned until 4 weeks and 74 posts into the thread?? And then not mentioned by name, btw, at least by the OP.
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As usual, Dpeck is right again. Nobody started a thread about you. The thread was started 27 days before this one. His OP was just to talk about his excitement about his purchase. The day after this thread was started, he referenced it, in the 74th post in that thread. How narcissistic do you have to be to say "somebody started a thread about me" when you're not mentioned until 4 weeks and 74 posts into the thread?? And then not mentioned by name, btw, at least by the OP.
Full name, please.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:49 PM
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Full name, please.
I'm not sure whose name you're looking for. Mine is Dan Be$$ette. Bobby's last name is Williams I believe. I don't know the real name of the CU member who's an innocent bystander in Bobby's witch hunt.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:36 PM
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I've been following this thread for some time, I go under Smokie on the CU board, I have a nice collection of 1975 complete set.

David is correct the biggest mistake I made was sharing my big win.

First I want to say that I have the highest respect for all the members on the CU boards. I have BST several times and had all good transactions. I don't post a whole lot but do occasionally post some card for sale.

When I first saw the George Brett card in a bin for 500 I was shocked, first thing I did was check the serial number to make sure it was good then I quickly pulled the trigger and paid for it. Then the wait to see if I do in fact get the card and sure enough a week later I received the card, I was pretty excited about it thought I'd post it to the members on the CU board, they too thought something was wrong with everything you can mention from the bar code to the holder. At that point I decided to put it to rest and piece of mind if I did decide to sell the card sent it back to PSA for management review and put it in a new holder. I get the card back which has now been graded twice, reviewed twice and holder twice without a doubt it is a PSA 9. I post it and most congratulated me.

Now I have to deal with it being stolen.

My next guess I'll be getting every Tom, Dick, and Harry e-mailing me telling me that its their card. I did register it in my set and it is not registered to anyone in the registry. Ron

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Old 11-12-2015, 05:40 PM
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I never said the card was stolen. I just said that all signs pointed to it being hot. You might not ever hear a thing. Just tuck it away in your collection and forget about it. After all the harassments I get, I'm sorry I even started this thread. I just thought someone would like to know in case they had their cards stolen from them. I know I would.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:27 PM
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It looks to me like he sells quite a few high dollar cards. I would say it is far more likely he sold the Brett too cheap because he was unaware of the current market for it. His other cards that he's sold more recently appear to be more in line with the market, and would also make it appear that he has or had a nice collection of cards. He also could have been selling them for a friend/relative which might explain a lot of low dollar sales with high dollar cards mixed in.

I think you're off on this one.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:36 PM
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I just looked and can't find his comments.

The reason I responded was whether you intended to or not you made a blanket statement and I think that opinion is wrong and I think the thread isn't warranted.

The card was sold on October 3rd and the seller has completed several other higher dollar sales since. I would like to think that if they were moving "hot" merchandise and only priced this card at a fire sale price to move it quickly they would have done the same with their other cards. If the goal is to get in and out they certainly haven't done a very good job if they are still selling these "hot" cards nearly a month and a half later.

Perhaps this site gets more traffic then I realize but I find it hard to believe this is the first place someone would look if they were missing cards. I would imagine that EBAY would be and they could look at the cards sold and contact the seller themselves.

I can speak from experience when it comes to buying items at a fraction of the current value. In those instances I sent payment as quick as possible and simply crossed my fingers hoping the merchandise would come. Thankfully in every case it did.

At the end of the day I think just about every single person would have hit the BIN and while I don't actively collect baseball anymore I would have snagged that baby as quick as possible. One of the benefits of actively searching EBAY is finding mispriced items and it happens every day in all sorts of genres.

My mind isn't wired to think everything is a fraud or that people are out to get me. The biggest mistake the buyer made was trying to share his win with fellow hobby members because not only did he have to deal with the comments that the card was fake he now reading a thread that suggests that since it is real he bought a stolen card. I think unfortunately the lesson here is if you hit a home run keep it to yourself as someone will find a way to rain on your parade.

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