Has anyone had a 1975 George Brett rookie PSA 9 STOLEN from them??

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by DBesse27

Dpeck is right. There are several meddling people on CU who can't stand it if somebody gets a great deal. Bobby has a penchant for stirring up drama, which is why he was perma-banned over there.

When I see a card sell at far below market value, my first thought is that the seller was uninformed and the buyer had fortuitous timing. I don't take to an Internet message board to say the buyer is in receipt of stolen goods, and I certainly don't dredge up this stuff 4 weeks after the sale.

DPeck IS NOT right....you can't tell me that someone owns a card of that magnitude and has NO CLUE what it is worth!!! The majority of his cards are Pokemon cards for crying out loud!! I am sorry, but if it smells like a fish.....

[MULLINS5]

I think it's possible that the card is stolen. Pokemon cards...maybe it's a kid who stole some of dad's baseball cards? Maybe housekeepers pocketed it while doing the laundry. Who knows? It doesn't hurt to inform the public in case it's a hot item. No need to pile onto the OP for this.

[DBesse27]

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[glynparson]

but what was at one time the market price is not that uncommon and why many at a show like to hear someone say i haven't set up in x number of years. Those are the dealers whose inventories you want to peruse first, often some bargains. I think it is unfair to the seller to basically accuse him of selling stolen property with no evidence and then just be like i'd want to know if it were my stolen card. Problem is this was not a stolen card as far as we know. I think the seller is owed an apology if this never is proven to be stolen. Pretending there are never bargains on ebay is laughable. I know many people that have scooped up more than a few major bargains over the years on Buy it Now items as well as auctions.

[bobbyw8469]

Problem is this was not a stolen card as far as we know.

How do you know it's not? It hasn't even been 3 days yet. Give the owner a chance to locate the thread. At least with the info out there someone can see it and be like "Hey - those are MY cards!" I had a trailer stolen from me. Doesn't mean I forgot about the theft. If a neighbor called and said "Hey - I think I saw your trailer going down the road", I would be eternally grateful and be all over it trying to see if it indeed was my trailer. I just don't see what the harm is with a thread like this out there asking if you had some cards missing. If you look at the sellers history, I am sorry if you think it is squeaky clean. It is highly suspect when someone sells $3 Pokémon cards to all of the sudden has 3-5 random baseball cards (huge ones for that matter), especially when they amount to 1% of his sales. And if you think stolen cards don't get sold on Ebay, you have your head in the sand.

[bobbyw8469]

As far as PSA goes, it was a mutual thing. I don't ever want to go back there. That board shows how far a board can fall. it has literally "gone to shit". I think PSA is a great company, I have nothing but respect for Joe Orlando, and admire what they have don't for the card industry. Their message board is nothing like this one, and I choose not to be a part of it. I am sorry if this thread offends you - but if it helps an owner find his missing property, I would do it all over again and not think twice about it.

Someone has alerted me that they have started a thread bashing me for starting this thread. That's fine. For the person who bought the card, they want it to be legit. I want it to be legit for them too. I'm not about that. However, when all the red flags are present in regards to the sale of that card, then I'm just saying what others are thinking. The sale of that card is highly suspect. Selling a card for pennies on the dollar. Check. Seller has 999 $3 Pokemon cards, then out of nowhere pops out 3-4 huge baseball cards. Check. If you think that looks like a normal sale, then I have some oceanfront property in Nebraska I want you to take a look at.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

DPeck IS NOT right....you can't tell me that someone owns a card of that magnitude and has NO CLUE what it is worth!!! The majority of his cards are Pokemon cards for crying out loud!! I am sorry, but if it smells like a fish.....

Not cards, but I've bought stamps on Ebay that were BINs from dealers AND that were even more lopsided deals than this was.

So yes, some people just either don't know what they have or don't keep track of all the prices.

Steve B

[RCMcKenzie]

The only time I've ever been to The National was in 1985 in Anaheim at the Disneyland Hotel. In a box of cards, my brother and I found a 1975 Topps George Brett in a top loader marked "$3". My brother was about 10 and he was pretty geeked about it. I told him he should buy it, as I already had one back at home and I thought it was a really good deal.

He paid for the Brett rookie himself and I bought a 1985 Topps Wax Box and opened up the packs when we got back to the hotel. I remember I pulled a Roger Clemens and a Barry Bonds that I still have in a box somewhere. My brother sold the Brett Rookie along with the rest of his collection for $300 when he went off to college.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

He paid for the Brett rookie himself and I bought a 1985 Topps Wax Box and opened up the packs when we got back to the hotel. I remember I pulled a Roger Clemens and a Barry Bonds that I still have in a box somewhere. My brother sold the Brett Rookie along with the rest of his collection for $300 when he went off to college.

1985 Topps Bonds?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

1985 Topps Bonds?

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[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

1985 Topps Bonds?

My memory is not all that good. The next time I talk to my brother I will ask him. I know it was a large card show in the mid 80's in Anaheim. Maybe it was 1986 that we were there? As y'all say, the Bonds I was thinking of is his 1986 Topps card. Maybe I bought those later? Anyway he did buy a Brett RC for $3 one time at a show in California, which we both thought was a good deal, if not actually a steal...

[Dpeck100]

Bobby before you get too excited no one started a thread about you.

So since you believe there are no deals ever on EBAY would you have hit the BIN on this auction had you been fortunate enough to see if first?

"One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real."

These are your comments. Since it is real it is "hot". Or in normal terms stolen.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Bobby before you get too excited no one started a thread about you.

So since you believe there are no deals ever on EBAY would you have hit the BIN on this auction had you been fortunate enough to see if first?

"One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real."

These are your comments. Since it is real it is "hot". Or in normal terms stolen.

Not always....but usually the case. There is more to it than that though. When a seller sells 9,999 $3 Pokemon cards, is he all of the sudden going to have 3-4 baseball cards (smoker ones at that)? Maybe so, usually not. What if he sold, say, one big one?? A 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 5? Would you think it was legit? Look...I didn't mean for this thread to be antagonistic. But when a deal is too good to be true.....Would you feel silly if these cards DID INDEED turn out to be stolen? Would you issue me an apology?

And yes, I'm aware of the snarkiness on the PSA board. I read KBCards comments. If anyone else beside me posted that, this wouldn't even be an issue. Everyone always checks out sellers history to see if cards they are selling are legitimate (they have a history of selling high dollar cards vs them selling Tupperware 99% of the time). However, because it is me pointing out the obvious, everyone is up in arms about it. Oh well. If I can help someone get their stolen items back, then I will do it again in a heartbeat. If the cards are somehow legit, no harm no foul. However, these cards have more Red Flags associated with them than anyone cares to admit.