Check out these T213-2 "error cards".....Show & Tell us about your T213's

[z28jd]

I have 1/20th of a Schaefer T213

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I have 1/20th of a Schaefer T213

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Cool card of Owen Wilson / Schaefer....thanks for displaying it.


TED Z
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[ValKehl]

Hi Ted,
Thought you might like to see this 1915 issue that also incorrectly states the team that "Germany" played for:
Val

[nolemmings]

I've been intrigued by t213-2s for awhile now. Ted, another mistake like the one you mention is Tim Jordan, who played for Toronto in 1914 and part of 1915 but who never played for Fort Worth, yet his t213-2 can be found with either team listed. Seems there was also a Timothy Jordan who played for the Fort Worth Panthers in those years, about whom little is known. Don't know if they thought they had the right guy or just figured it was close enough.

Can anyone point me to research on how the t213-2s were distributed over the three years? Was the same group of 63 or so cards printed each year with just updated or changed team info and the occasional airbrush like Collins and Herzog? Is there any player in the set who is not captioned with his 1914 team but just a 1915 and/or 1916 team?

[RCMcKenzie]

Todd,

Interesting points. Harry Krause only has one T213-2 card and it is captioned "Omaha". Krause only played for Omaha for one year in 1916.

The other '1 card only' subjects seem to be from 1914. I'm about halfway through looking for the exceptions, so far Krause is the only post 1914 I've seen.
Also, the Dunn Baltimore has to be "Jack" Dunn, Baltimore's Manager in 1914 & 1916. Not Joe Dunn...

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I've been intrigued by t213-2s for awhile now. Ted, another mistake like the one you mention is Tim Jordan, who played for Toronto in 1914 and part of 1915 but who never played for Fort Worth, yet his t213-2 can be found with either team listed. Seems there was also a Timothy Jordan who played for the Fort Worth Panthers in those years, about whom little is known. Don't know if they thought they had the right guy or just figured it was close enough.

Can anyone point me to research on how the t213-2s were distributed over the three years? Was the same group of 63 or so cards printed each year with just updated or changed team info and the occasional airbrush like Collins and Herzog?

Is there any player in the set who is not captioned with his 1914 team but just a 1915 and/or 1916 team?

Todd

Nice research on Tim Jordan.


I am still in the process of researching these T213-2 guys. However, to answer your question......Sherry Magee (batting) is identified with Boston NL, which he played for in 1915-1917.

Furthermore, my Chase portrait with Chicago (shown here) is a 1914 issue. I have seen this same portrait of Chase with Buffalo, FL (1915 issue). And, the T213-2 Chase (Trophy) card
identifies him with Buffalo.



Timeline

............... 1910 .................................................. .............. 1914 .................................................. ............ 1919 ................................................ 1914-1915







TED Z
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[nolemmings]

Thanks Ted. I'm trying to figure out whether cards were added and subtracted in 1915 and 1916, or were just the captions changed. It seems there were some changes--like the Krause that was mentioned. Magee though has a t213-2 card with the Phillies, his 1914 team, so he was around for all three years.

Then you get guys like Tom Needham, who last played in 1914 (and Billy Purtell--Detroit). Did he continue to get printed or was he replaced? And George Mullin, who has 1914 and 1915 Fed Lg. Cards and then was done. Since the Federal Lg itself did not make it to 1916, I assume his 1915 card was not reprinted in 1916, and as he had no other team identification, he was replaced. Same for Russ Ford and Buffalo.

Here's a pic of the Tim Jordan, Fort Worth and the Jack/Joe Dunn, Baltimore:

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Thanks Ted. I'm trying to figure out whether cards were added and subtracted in 1915 and 1916, or were just the captions changed. It seems there were some changes--like the Krause that was mentioned. Magee though has a t213-2 card with the Phillies, his 1914 team, so he was around for all three years.

Then you get guys like Tom Needham, who last played in 1914 (and Billy Purtell--Detroit). Did he continue to get printed or was he replaced? And George Mullin, who has 1914 and 1915 Fed Lg. Cards and then was done. Since the Federal Lg itself did not make it to 1916, I assume his 1915 card was not reprinted in 1916, and as he had no other team identification, he was replaced. Same for Russ Ford and Buffalo.

Todd

Here's one....Josh Devore's T213-2 card identifies him with Chillicothe (Ohio State League).

Devore retired from MLB at the end of the 1914 season. He became the playing/manager for Chillicothe in the 1915 season.

I do not think there is a 1914 card of him. But then, I may be proven wrong.



TED Z
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