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Old 10-31-2015, 08:07 PM
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You realize that you're on a message board that specializes in pictures of guys on pieces of cardboard, right?
Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:13 PM
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Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.
500K to that buyer may be like 1k to you or I....it all the same thing..i know lots of non collectors who would say there may things more significant to buy other than a baseball picture even for 40 bucks...
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:29 PM
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500K to that buyer may be like 1k to you or I....it all the same thing..i know lots of non collectors who would say there may things more significant to buy other than a baseball picture even for 40 bucks...

It's not really the same as far as the point I was making. It wasn't about relative wealth. My point was about the significance of a 52 Mantle.

Using the coin example, for $40, I can buy some cards or I can buy some coins. None of the coins in the $40 range are going to be significant historical artifacts. They're going to be common just like the cards.

But for $500,000, I could possibly buy any number of coins with great historical significance, that far outweighs a 52 Mantle. I could buy a Roman Sestertius commemorating the opening of the Colosseum in 80 A.D. for instance.

Maybe a 52 Mantle is worth $500,000 to some people but I have a different perspective.
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It's not really the same as far as the point I was making. It wasn't about relative wealth. My point was about the significance of a 52 Mantle.

Using the coin example, for $40, I can buy some cards or I can buy some coins. None of the coins in the $40 range are going to be significant historical artifacts. They're going to be common just like the cards.

But for $500,000, I could possibly buy any number of coins with great historical significance, that far outweighs a 52 Mantle. I could buy a Roman Sestertius commemorating the opening of the Colosseum in 80 A.D. for instance.

Maybe a 52 Mantle is worth $500,000 to some people but I have a different perspective.
For a half million you could get a pretty respectable work of art as well.
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For a half million you could get a pretty respectable work of art as well.
I pretty sure however is buying the mantle also has nice works of art too...
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Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.
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I would much rather have a picture of Babe Ruth.
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Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.
They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.
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There's probably more than a bit of truth in that Peter.
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$500,000 to these bidders is probably just pocket change to them.
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They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.
Excellent point.
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They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.
right cause you sell the holder not the card......until i ever see a post on ebay that says 'bad card for the grade' or 'techinal aspects of the card are much worse than the grade'


Though like when i see a seller say 'good card for the grade' then i assume any of his other postings are not good for the grade....just like a realtor or baseball cards seller saying 'priced to sell'...to me than means every other listing from that seller or realtor that doesnt say that is 'priced not to sell' when they are the ones using that priced to sell lingo...

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right cause you sell the holder not the card......until i ever see a post on ebay that says 'bad card for the grade' or 'techinal aspects of the card are much worse than the grade'


Though like when i see a seller say 'good card for the grade' then i assume any of his other postings are not good for the grade....just like a realtor or baseball cards seller saying 'priced to sell'...to me than means every other listing from that seller or realtor that doesnt say that is 'priced not to sell' when they are the ones using that priced to sell lingo...
Huh?
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Huh?
Law of exclusion. It's the opposite of the law of inclusions. The law of inclusions says something that is inside something else came first. It's why the chicken came before the egg too .

He is saying something that is excluded necessarilly has a characteristic of being "not" what the other offer is including. I think I just made less sense than he did.
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Haha, thanks Leon! My takeaway: A high grade card is an egg and you should buy a chicken before you sell all your eggs.
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Law of exclusion. It's the opposite of the law of inclusions. The law of inclusions says something that is inside something else came first. It's why the chicken came before the egg too .

He is saying something that is excluded necessarilly has a characteristic of being "not" what the other offer is including. I think I just made less sense than he did.
correct..not sure how someone didnt understand it.

sort of like saying to a girl 'did you lose weight, you look nice'...girl says 'so yesterday when you saw me, i looked fat and ugly?'
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A fine example of how all collectibles are more about things like how popular the subject is and how people relate to the items.

I wonder ---Ok, not really since I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

If you put The 52 Mantle, the 1795 gold coin and a half million dollar piece of art in three storefronts next to each other sideshow style charging some minimal bit to see it - Which would have the longest line?

The likely answer isn't the one I like, but that's sort of the point.

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