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Old 11-01-2015, 07:00 AM
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right cause you sell the holder not the card......until i ever see a post on ebay that says 'bad card for the grade' or 'techinal aspects of the card are much worse than the grade'


Though like when i see a seller say 'good card for the grade' then i assume any of his other postings are not good for the grade....just like a realtor or baseball cards seller saying 'priced to sell'...to me than means every other listing from that seller or realtor that doesnt say that is 'priced not to sell' when they are the ones using that priced to sell lingo...
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Law of exclusion. It's the opposite of the law of inclusions. The law of inclusions says something that is inside something else came first. It's why the chicken came before the egg too .

He is saying something that is excluded necessarilly has a characteristic of being "not" what the other offer is including. I think I just made less sense than he did.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:17 AM
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Haha, thanks Leon! My takeaway: A high grade card is an egg and you should buy a chicken before you sell all your eggs.
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Law of exclusion. It's the opposite of the law of inclusions. The law of inclusions says something that is inside something else came first. It's why the chicken came before the egg too .

He is saying something that is excluded necessarilly has a characteristic of being "not" what the other offer is including. I think I just made less sense than he did.
correct..not sure how someone didnt understand it.

sort of like saying to a girl 'did you lose weight, you look nice'...girl says 'so yesterday when you saw me, i looked fat and ugly?'
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A fine example of how all collectibles are more about things like how popular the subject is and how people relate to the items.

I wonder ---Ok, not really since I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

If you put The 52 Mantle, the 1795 gold coin and a half million dollar piece of art in three storefronts next to each other sideshow style charging some minimal bit to see it - Which would have the longest line?

The likely answer isn't the one I like, but that's sort of the point.

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A fine example of how all collectibles are more about things like how popular the subject is and how people relate to the items.

I wonder ---Ok, not really since I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

If you put The 52 Mantle, the 1795 gold coin and a half million dollar piece of art in three storefronts next to each other sideshow style charging some minimal bit to see it - Which would have the longest line?

The likely answer isn't the one I like, but that's sort of the point.

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Very interesting, I know I would be in the art line everyday and twice on Sunday. 52 mantles are far from rare and I couldn't care less about a chunk of metal but that piece of art is a different story.
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Very interesting, I know I would be in the art line everyday and twice on Sunday. 52 mantles are far from rare and I couldn't care less about a chunk of metal but that piece of art is a different story.
all of this isn't about popularity..what costs more I guess doesn't always mean whats most popular..but this is about money....as there was an argument of having 'money left over' ....tom cruise makes more money in a movie than LeBron james makes in a season on an nba contract....is he more popular.? who knows but get gets paid more money..

popular or not..rare or not...someone is willing to pay more for a 52 mantle high grade then the coin we are talking about..
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Very interesting, I know I would be in the art line everyday and twice on Sunday. 52 mantles are far from rare and I couldn't care less about a chunk of metal but that piece of art is a different story.
I would totally be in the art line with you also sir.

The constant argument in my mind is between buying cards or art and to be honest my best investments have consistently been in the art world.

Lately, the cards win most because it's a hell of a lot easier to slide a card past the wife than something appearing on the wall.
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I would totally be in the art line with you also sir.

The constant argument in my mind is between buying cards or art and to be honest my best investments have consistently been in the art world.

Lately, the cards win most because it's a hell of a lot easier to slide a card past the wife than something appearing on the wall.
except if you go on a cruise your wife will bother you to buy some peter max artwork that has like one brush stroke of original art on it...and she will want the artwork and to also finish her free champagne.
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A fine example of how all collectibles are more about things like how popular the subject is and how people relate to the items.

I wonder ---Ok, not really since I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

If you put The 52 Mantle, the 1795 gold coin and a half million dollar piece of art in three storefronts next to each other sideshow style charging some minimal bit to see it - Which would have the longest line?

The likely answer isn't the one I like, but that's sort of the point.

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I would buy a mid grade Mantle and head for the art line.
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I would buy a mid grade Mantle and head for the art line.
If I had 500k to blow on art or cards I think I'd get the Mantle in a 6 or 7 and have enough left over for a t206 wagner psa or sgc 1.
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Right now I know I am in the minority, but I would run from 52' Mantles at this moment like buying a home in the spring of 06'.

They will never be cheap but the market can't sustain this.
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