Baseball Hall of Fame

[RaidonCollects]

IMHO, I don't think they should be inducted. Maris, Thomson and others had good careers, but certainly not HOF worthy.

However, if a player has a very good career, PLUS a major achievement like Maris etc., then they can have a fairly good case for induction. For example, Jack Chesbro.

~Owen

[packs]

I tend to agree with your perspective. However, I really do think there should be a special place for Maris in the Hall because what he did was so incredible. He was only 26 when he broke the record and was then out of baseball by the time he was 33. If you look at cards from him from just a few years later, like his 1965 Topps card, he looks like an old man. But he's just 29 in 1965.

What he accomplished destroyed him and it should stand as a testament in the Hall in my opinion.

[almostdone]

I don't think a single achievement should be considered for enshrinement. While they mark places in history it's not the intention of the HOF. Besides Thomson you could make the case for Larsen with his World Series perfect game or even Tatis for two grand slams in one inning.

The reason the Thomson homer is huge was the games set up in baseball history. While it is memorable indeed it's actually smaller in achievement than Joe Carters walk off World Series win but no one is thinking Carter should go into the hall based on that.

Remember while the shot heard round the world got the Giants into the series they still got killed by the Yankees during the World Series and if the Wolrd Series is the games biggest stage than a tie breaker game into it isn't.

Nothing against Thomson or the game or moment but not worthy of enshrinement. A display in the museum, absolutely but a plaque in the hall, no.

Just my opinion,
Drew

[Econteachert205]

Flood should be in period. Every player and union member owe him for his sacrifice.

[travrosty]

They have already done this, his name is Bill Mazeroski.

[clydepepper]

Fernando Tatis !

Eric Bruntlett (look it up!)


by the way, if Tatis was let in for what he did, shouldn't Chan Ho Park go in as well, since the SAME pitcher serving up TWO grandslams to the SAME hitter in the SAME inning is not only just as rare, but actually less probable...as he could have been pulled prior to lightning striking twice.

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[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

Flood should be in period. Every player and union member owe him for his sacrifice.

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As much discussion as I hear about the possibility of Marvin Miller going in and how much he deserves it, Flood is never mentioned even though their efforts made one of their careers flourish while destroying the other. Where is the justice in that?
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[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

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As much discussion as I hear about the possibility of Marvin Miller going in and how much he deserves it, Flood is never mentioned even though their efforts made one of their careers flourish while destroying the other. Where is the justice in that?
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Flood absolutely deserves to be in.

People so often overlook what a standout player Flood was when he decided to fight the system. In his last nine seasons, Flood was a .303 hitter, and he'd won 7 consecutive Gold Gloves. He received MVP votes in six of his last seven seasons. He was only 31 when he last played for the Cardinals.

[Econteachert205]

Marvin miller got paid for doing what Curt Flood lost money doing. That's why I'm partial to Flood versus Miller. As a union building rep I would expect the person I was representing to be viewed as the heroic one in such an instance.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by packs

I tend to agree with your perspective. However, I really do think there should be a special place for Maris in the Hall because what he did was so incredible. He was only 26 when he broke the record and was then out of baseball by the time he was 33. If you look at cards from him from just a few years later, like his 1965 Topps card, he looks like an old man. But he's just 29 in 1965.

What he accomplished destroyed him and it should stand as a testament in the Hall in my opinion.

In case you have not noticed....almost all of the players of yesteryear looked a LOT older for their age!
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