OT: ESPN nukes the Patriots, Goodell

[KCRfan1]

I tend to agree, there is no new news here. Teams have scouted each other for decades and will always try to get a leg up on the other team. Like them or not, the Pats win. Any " supposed " cheating is in the eye of the beholder. Too bad the other owners, all 31 of them, don't have the balls to come out publicly and voice their displeasure rather than have ESPN be the mouthpiece. It would have been more impactful if it's true.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I tend to agree, there is no new news here.

That's why we're not talking about it.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Runscott

That's why we're not talking about it.

Touche.....

[wolf441]

ESPN is, and has been, in Goodell's back pocket all along. To think that they "dropped a bomb on Goodell and the Patriots" ? Please. Goodell sanctioned this story to avoid Kraft (in his position as one of the top two most powerful owners) from leading the charge to have Goodell canned after Brady won his appeal. We already know that Kraft has stated that he now regrets not fighting the penalties to the team.

Kraft can't endorse firing Goodell now or he will look like he's reacting to this story. There's no real new information here. All the story does is tie Kraft and Goodell to the same achor and if Goodell is thrown overboard, he's taking Kraft to the bottom with him.

Taping signals, under/over inflating footballs, messing with the visitors speakers... I'm betting that this is done by every team in the league or at least those that are smart enough to change their signals during the year (that explains why the Patiots beat up on the Dolphins and Bills every year).

The Raiders of the 1970's used to tape the visitors locker room and shut off the hot water. The 1970's Steelers were the first team to use steriods in a major way. The 1970-'80's Dolphins had a head coach who was also chair of the rules committee (and Shula is a giant a-Hole, who ran a terrible chain of steakhouses, but I digress). the Cowboys and 49ers of the 1990's were the first to learn and best to employ measures to take advantage of the salary cap.

The whole issue is that the media hates Belichik because he won't give them anything useful. Non Patriot football fans hate the Patriots because they win so much and hate Brady because he's married to a supermodel and doesn't do 500 commercials like "aw shucks" Peyton Manning.

Spygate? DeflateGate? How about JealousyGate.

It doesn't help that ESPN and NFL Network have about 20 former players working for them that were all whupped by the Pats at one time or another....

[rats60]

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Spygate? DeflateGate? How about JealousyGate.

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No jealousy here. It makes our SB wins much more special. Beating cheaters who couldn't cheat enough to win.

Illegal taping, steroids, trimming cards, shilling auctions, what's the difference? None.

[kcohen]

It's hilarious how the Patriots live rent-free in the heads of the owners and the haters.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

No jealousy here. It makes our SB wins much more special. Beating cheaters who couldn't cheat enough to win.

Illegal taping, steroids, trimming cards, shilling auctions, what's the difference? None.

Spare us the sanctimony.
http://yourteamcheats.com/NYG

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Spare us the sanctimony.
http://yourteamcheats.com/NYG

Sanctimony? Better on the pedestal than under it. I believe that most fans are more likely to defend their own team against cheating than others, but I'd rather see someone speak out against cheating that have to keep listening to the same old excuses that 'everyone does it' or that 'it isn't that big of a deal'.

I doubt that many, if any, read the article in the link I posted, so I'll mention that one of the things McGrath pointed out (whether or not it's true, I don't know) is that Goodell's punishing Brady and the Patriots might have been too severe because it was tossing a bone to the other owners who had put up with him looking the other way for so many years.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by rats60

No jealousy here. It makes our SB wins much more special. Beating cheaters who couldn't cheat enough to win.

Illegal taping, steroids, trimming cards, shilling auctions, what's the difference? None.

How about 3 out of 5 (and I'm being generous) of the offensive lineman clearly holding as Eli performed his Houdini act on the David Tyree catch?

Now, credit where credit is due, 2011 was a solid win by the NYG.

[yanks12025]

I find patriot fans very funny. They support their team and make excuses for everytime the patriots are caught cheating and just can't admit that they were caught.

[DanP]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I find patriot fans very funny. They support their team and make excuses for everytime the patriots are caught cheating and just can't admit that they were caught.

We're still waiting to see your N54 posts regarding Pettite, Clemens, Arod, etc. cheating while the Yankees were winning WS titles. You must have posted something since this cheating stuff seems to bother you so much.

[Runscott]

NM...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Scott I am not condoning cheating but his post strongly suggested his own team was above the fray (we beat those cheaters) so yes it was sanctimonious.

[Runscott]

NM...