OT: Shoeless Joe HOF decision?

[Dan Carson]

NO!!

[JoeyFarino]

In that era who would be dumb enough to rat on the mob???? Arnold Rothstein was in business with luciano, lansky, etc youd be looking at a death sentence if you snitched..period

[packs]

The point is you could have just said no and not taken $5,000 from Lefty Williams. You can't look at stats and say Joe Jackson definitively did not throw the World Series. He played the field. There's nothing about a box score that will tell you a guy didn't pull up on a fly ball they could have caught or tripped up rounding the bases and took a base away from themselves.

[JoeyFarino]

Originally Posted by packs

The point is you could have just said no and not taken $5,000 from Lefty Williams. You can't look at stats and say Joe Jackson definitively did not throw the World Series. He played the field. There's nothing about a box score that will tell you a guy didn't pull up on a fly ball they could have caught or tripped up rounding the bases and took a base away from themselves.

Thats true but not going along with it couldve also meant a death sentence as well. There was millions at stake and if 1 person was a threat to that do you really think theyd hesitate to do something. How do you explain jackson begging comiskey to take him out of the series? Obviously he didnt want any part of it.

[packs]

I don't know if there's any truth to that claim that he asked Comiskey not to play. He made it later in life and not during his deposition.

If you want to go with the mob angle, which I don't really buy into because it takes a whole team or no team, he didn't have to accept the money. Accepting the money is what did him in.

[JoeyFarino]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't know if there's any truth to that claim that he asked Comiskey not to play. He made it later in life and not during his deposition.

If you want to go with the mob angle, which I don't really buy into because it takes a whole team or no team, he didn't have to accept the money. Accepting the money is what did him in.

But it wasnt the WHOLE team and the fact that jackson even knew about it made him a liability. You dont think for a second that Rothstein used intimidation to persuade some of the players to go along with it???

[packs]

Originally Posted by JoeyFarino

But it wasnt the WHOLE team and the fact that jackson even knew about it made him a liability. You dont think for a second that Rothstein used intimidation to persuade some of the players to go along with it???

I don't think so, no. Because Buck Weaver attended multiple meetings and took no money, he simply sat back and watched his team throw the series. Joe Jackson on the other hand did take money. No one had to do anything.