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Old 08-21-2015, 08:18 PM
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I think it's been known for quite a while that he trimmed that card. I don't think it will have any impact on the value. Altered or not it's still the nicest example of the most valuable card in the hobby, by a wide margin. Way out of my league, but 5 mil sounds like a reasonable estimate to me.

No one in their right mind would ever remove it from it's current holder. The card doesn't bring any where close to 5 mil in a PSA authentic, altered holder.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:25 PM
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I just saw your post Robert. I had to check the Pop report to verify for myself. I do remember seeing it before and there was an 8. I'm assuming it must have been changed. I find it hard to believe that PSA bought the card back to remove it from the population report. But I suppose according to their guarantee that's what they are supposed to do.

I just typed 00000001 into their cert verification link and it says it wasn't found in their database.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:01 PM
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I just saw your post Robert. I had to check the Pop report to verify for myself. I do remember seeing it before and there was an 8. I'm assuming it must have been changed. I find it hard to believe that PSA bought the card back to remove it from the population report. But I suppose according to their guarantee that's what they are supposed to do.

I just typed 00000001 into their cert verification link and it says it wasn't found in their database.
If it's out of the pop and the cert database it may well have been decommissioned.
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well here's another crook's account of the history of the wagner.

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=24080
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Maybe they took the Wagner down until the smoke clears
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That's a good theory, Charles.

At one time, the card was listed separately on the pop report as the "McNall/Gretzky" Wagner, but now it does appear to be removed.

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Thanks Chuck! I also remember the Wagner listed as Mcnall/Gretzky
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I think it's been known for quite a while that he trimmed that card. I don't think it will have any impact on the value. Altered or not it's still the nicest example of the most valuable card in the hobby, by a wide margin. Way out of my league, but 5 mil sounds like a reasonable estimate to me.

No one in their right mind would ever remove it from it's current holder. The card doesn't bring any where close to 5 mil in a PSA authentic, altered holder.
This would be my vote as well. It is still overall the nicest example of one of the two most desirable cards on the planet (the other being the 1914 Baltimore News Ruth). The story behind it and its impact on hobby history may well only increase its value.

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