Deleting prices after an item has sold

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by camlov2

I remove the sale price because when I started here on net54 I noticed that most of the the people did that. Why stop now...

right thats what the men said in the U.S. before women's suffrage...why give woman the right to vote? Why stop now? Never change...yeah that gets us far in life...... why stop letting umpires have the final say on plays and use instant replay? Yeah change NEVER happens...

[packs]

I remove the price because I want people to know it's not available. If I just write sold and leave the price, someone will ignore wherever I put sold. It happened to me a bunch of times, so I started taking the price out. Hasn't happened since.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right thats what the men said in the U.S. before women's suffrage...why give woman the right to vote? Why stop now? Never change...yeah that gets us far in life...... why stop letting umpires have the final say on plays and use instant replay? Yeah change NEVER happens...

Yeah. That makes sense. Comparing how some one choses to sell their items to being anti-women. Why stop there? Why not compare us to Germany? Or are we more like the people that just stood around and did nothing during the civil rights movement? No, wait... We are Tzarist and we are oppressing the people with our tactics.

[ullmandds]

I have sold cards here on the bst in the past at apparently prices that were too low. I did my research...thought about what I paid and what they were worth and set my prices.

Dealing with many members scolding me for selling too low caused me to start deleting my sold item prices. It's nobody's business what I choose to sell my cards for...so there!!!!

[Bpm0014]

I can certainly understand both sides, however I wish the prices were not deleted and stayed visible.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I have sold cards here on the bst in the past at apparently prices that were too low. I did my research...thought about what I paid and what they were worth and set my prices.

Dealing with many members scolding me for selling too low caused me to start deleting my sold item prices. It's nobody's business what I choose to sell my cards for...so there!!!!

People can do what they want...the point is we are making is its not bad to post the selling prices or against any privacy...its good for the hobby as whole.....at least better for the hobby then not posting them..transparency is never a bad thing..

again anyone can do what they want...but we are just making some suggestions....some posters didnt realize you could put a line through the sale price if its sold...they orignally were worried that buyers would still think the card was for sale if they didnt delete it...so that problem solved.....it just the asking price...,..i actually surprised that there is support..when i first brought it up all the posts were negative against the point.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

People can do what they want...the point is we are making is its not bad to post the selling prices or against any privacy...its good for the hobby as whole.....at least better for the hobby then not posting them..transparency is never a bad thing..

again anyone can do what they want...but we are just making some suggestions....some posters didnt realize you could put a line through the sale price if its sold...they orignally were worried that buyers would still think the card was for sale if they didnt delete it...so that problem solved.....it just the asking price...,..i actually surprised that there is support..when i first brought it up all the posts were negative against the point.

Maybe the difference is between collector and flipper.

[obcbobd]

A big thanks to all who leave the selling prices after the sale has been completed.

[Laxcat]

I have no problem if the buyer wants to post the price in the replies and broadcast what s/he paid.

That has happened exactly zero times.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

Maybe the difference is between collector and flipper.

Buyers dont care what a seller paid for a card....i never understood in a negotiation when a seller says how much they paid as a reason why they need more on a card...people pay what they feel it is worth....markets go up and down..

People can see cards on VCP as well...so buyers should assume that all cards bougth in private forum were sold for less than VCP average...otherwise the seller would use the old 'i would lose money on the card if dont get my price'.....

[Laxcat]

So I'm guessing that when you go to a show that you walk up to a dealer and ask them what they have sold and how much they got for it?

OT: but who am I kidding. I'm the fool for trying to argue with someone that thinks hitting for the cycle is no big deal. How far removed from the actual enjoyment of the sport and the history of the players do you have to be?

Also a part of me feels that you like to stir stuff up for no other reason than you can. I'm sorry if that feels like a personal attack.

Matthew Charlton

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Buyers dont care what a seller paid for a card....i never understood in a negotiation when a seller says how much they paid as a reason why they need more on a card...people pay what they feel it is worth....markets go up and down..

People can see cards on VCP as well...so buyers should assume that all cards bougth in private forum were sold for less than VCP average...otherwise the seller would use the old 'i would lose money on the card if dont get my price'.....

One last thing. Actually a couple.

Why do you assume that all sales in a private forum are under VCP? Why is VCP the holy grail of "pricing"?

It seems to be a fairly easy system to manipulate.

EX: someone has been hoarding Gem mint 196x Topps Johnny Cupo'coffee. They then conspire to inflate the price of said card through false sales on EBay and AH's.
Doesn't VCP track these sales and this increase the price of the card? All of a sudden Mr. Cupo'coffee's card goes from $X to $X^2.

[Laxcat]

For some variety: another example.

This happens on eBay quite frequently.

You sell item for $xx.xx. Person who is not purchaser sends you message that they will pay more for the item than the winner, if you cancel the transaction. That is some of the most horse**** behavior I have ever witnessed. It has happened to me and I know from reading that it has happened to some of yall. These tactics have been tried on me by members of many forums including this one. There is no malice or spite in the reason that I delete my prices. I do so for the buyers sake and mine.


Just another reason I delete the price on the BST here.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

For some variety: another example.

This happens on eBay quite frequently.

You sell item for $xx.xx. Person who is not purchaser sends you message that they will pay more for the item than the winner, if you cancel the transaction. That is some of the most horse**** behavior I have ever witnessed. It has happened to me and I know from reading that it has happened to some of yall. These tactics have been tried on me by members of many forums including this one. There is no malice or spite in the reason that I delete my prices. I do so for the buyers sake and mine.


Just another reason I delete the price on the BST here.

Easy to wait for card to be shipped then post asking price...so cant back out of the deal for more money..problem solved..

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I have sold cards here on the bst in the past at apparently prices that were too low. I did my research...thought about what I paid and what they were worth and set my prices.

Dealing with many members scolding me for selling too low caused me to start deleting my sold item prices. It's nobody's business what I choose to sell my cards for...so there!!!!

price-shaming, it's what we do here petey! point finger and laugh at your lack of salesmanship for not 5x the asking price of what you want it to sell for then incrementally bumping it down 2.5% every day...

i do remember that one post where your card sold within 30sec and the board had a mini-meltdown about it

[ullmandds]

damn straight Quan!!!

to me...as a vintage collector for 35 years or so...I don't like how pricing in the hobby...as well as knowledge...seems to have become something that can be looked up and a fairly decisive conclusion made quickly and easily.

i certainly realize that the grading companies...and the registries...and the VCP's of the world...the ebay's...the message boards...have all contributed to this framework.

i suppose it's just the evolution of a given area of knowledge/collecting when technology is thrown into the mix?

most of us seem to agree...that we pay what we are willing to pay for an item. A lot of the time I don't look up past pricing for a card...because if I want it...and am willing to pay the asking price...I will buy it...and be happy!

I'm apparently a barely middle aged dinosaur! P-rex...sorry ted!

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

price-shaming, it's what we do here petey! point finger and laugh at your lack of salesmanship for not 5x the asking price of what you want it to sell for then incrementally bumping it down 2.5% every day...

i do remember that one post where your card sold within 30sec and the board had a mini-meltdown about it

[Bocabirdman]

This may be over simplifying things but...This is a board of collectors. There are many reasons a card sells for what it does. Pricing on the BST is not a straight forward eBay minus fees. I am less worried about the prices remaining visible than the actual transaction remaining in the post. I am looking for something? I like to see who sold one recently. That way I can reach out and ask "Do you have any more?" "Do you know who might?"

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

This may be over simplifying things but...This is a board of collectors. There are many reasons a card sells for what it does. Pricing on the BST is not a straight forward eBay minus fees. I am less worried about the prices remaining visible than the actual transaction remaining in the post. I am looking for something? I like to see who sold one recently. That way I can reach out and ask "Do you have any more?" "Do you know who might?"

Absolutely...this makes perfect sense Mike. What doesn't make sense is pretending knowing an asking price provides anyone with any useful or relevant information. If I want to see asking prices I'll just look at buy it now listings on ebay. That's always good for a laugh or two.