T205 Piedmont 42 - Update?

[bn2cardz]

If you mean for the specific player, Ames, it isn't a confirmed back.

The back in general is tougher but premiums come and go on tougher back t205. A lot of the time I have seen no premium given or very minimal at best.

Drum, Hindu, and Broadleaf seem to be the only backs to bring consistent high premiums.

[Jobu]

Thanks Andy. The Ames is a T206 and is confirmed for that set. My question was about Piedmont 42 in T205, a set that I really don't know much about.

Does anyone have a confirmed list for this back in T205?

The best info that I found is from a LOTG write up (part of which follows):

According to an extensive study conducted by T205 scholars Joshua Levine and Shawn Adkins and published in SGC Collector magazine, the Piedmont Factory 42 reverse is ranked #4 in overall scarcity, behind only the impossibly rare Drum, Hindu and Broadleaf back ads. The two conducted an exhaustive census of T205 cards and concluded that the Factory 42 reverse accounted for less than 1% of all T205 cards with more than 20,000 individual cards counted.

For collectors concerned with back variety, the Piedmont Factory 42 back is a true rarity, perhaps the equivalent of a Carolina Brights or Broadleaf 350 reverse within the T206 issue.

[Gradedcardman]

Check out T-205 Resource at t205resource.com

Good checklist although not totally updated but a very good starting point.

[Jobu]

Thanks Adam, the list there is nice and I didn't realize it existed.

So it more or less seems that Piedmont 42 T205s are really rare backs that usually don't bring much, if any, premium?

[AddieJoss]

IMO the Piedmont 42s are tougher to find but not very difficult. I think they are about as common as American beauty or Cycle.

[Jobu]

In 2012, Joshua (Wite3) posted the following ranking of back scarcity - is this still accepted? Are the backs here ranked within tiers as well?

Thanks to the T205 experts for answering my questions, hopefully others are benefitting from this conversation.


Extremely Scarce

Blank Back
Hindu
Drum

Scarce

Broadleaf greenish
Broadleaf black
American Beauty black
American Beauty green
Piedmont Fact. 42
Cycle

Slightly Rare

Hassan Fact. 30
Sovereign
Honest Long Cut

Common

Hassan Fact. 649
Sweet Cap. black fact. 42
Sweet Cap. black fact. 25
Sweet Cap. red
Polar Bear
Piedmont fact. 25

[T205 GB]

That list is semi accurate. A large group of us T205 guys made a list of confirmed backs a few yrs ago. That list really brings to light rarities. Nothing beats knowledge though. I have noticed many of us hardcore T205 guys don't post up info anymore.

To answer your question yes Pied 42's are tough and they do command a premium. All that I have sold and seen sell over the past few yes have commanded a noticeable premium unless they flew under the radar. AB green are more scarce than black, Cycles are not scarce they are being horded by a few guys. Trust me I owned a lot of them at once and they were still very available at that time when I sold them all off. I reall had a lot of them btw.