T206 / Old Judge pack question

[Leon]

I believe I have seen one or a few encapsulated but am not positive. If there are any they will definitely be rare, especially if unopened.

[felada]

I believe there is a graded OJ floating around with the pulled from pack designation on the flip

[Joe_G.]

I save digital copies of most Goodwin & Co. packs that come to auction / for sale. This was from an April 2004 Mile High auction. Tax stamp on this pack was from September 1887.

[Jeffrompa]

I guess we would all love to check that pack out a little closer .

[oldjudge]

To find an unopened pack is pretty rare. Leon is right, Alan Rosen had a pack that was found in the mid-1990s that was unopened. It was opened at a show and had a rare card inside(Alcott-Mansfields). The card was heavily tobacco stained on the back, but SGC unexplainably gave it an SGC96 grade, I believe. The pack contained an N173 redemption list and an Goodwin & Co coupon, in addition to the card.
Opened Old Judge packs are not that scarce. The slabbed one that Joe has posted a picture of was an opened pack.

[jp1216]

SGC POP report shows a 98! with the next highest being a 60.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by jp1216

SGC POP report shows a 98! with the next highest being a 60.

It was a 98 and sold for close to $10,000 I believe, at least that was the asking price. I have a nice Mansfield card, would probably grade close to a 60, if not a grade higher, but I have no plans of grading it. The white marks on the scans aren't on the card, except the the one on the right border(middle) and the back is clean.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

To find an unopened pack is pretty rare. Leon is right, Alan Rosen had a pack that was found in the mid-1990s that was unopened. It was opened at a show and had a rare card inside(Alcott-Mansfields). The card was heavily tobacco stained on the back, but SGC unexplainably gave it an SGC96 grade, I believe. The pack contained an N173 redemption list and an Goodwin & Co coupon, in addition to the card.
Opened Old Judge packs are not that scarce. The slabbed one that Joe has posted a picture of was an opened pack.

The N172 Alcott was graded a 98 by SGC but it was the old label...before Derek and Lee were the principal graders.

I don't have a scan of the back of the card but I don't recall it being heavily stained. Moderately might be a better word. The corners were pretty sharp. It sold in August of 2002 for $6910. I don't have a record of any sales after that. All things considered, a pretty rare card in that grade.

[Leon]

If I remember correctly that card has one small circular type stain on the back. I don't think you can get a more clear image on a card. It is gorgeous, thanks for posting it MW....

Originally Posted by MW1

The N172 Alcott was graded a 98 by SGC but it was the old label...before Derek and Lee were the principal graders.

I don't have a scan of the back of the card but I don't recall it being heavily stained. Moderately might be a better word. The corners were pretty sharp. It sold in August of 2002 for $6910. I don't have a record of any sales after that. All things considered, a pretty rare card in that grade.