Hand cut

[deltaarnet]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

Strictly speaking in reference to Post cereal cards and Bazooka cards, in order to get a number grade, the black borders on the Post cards and the black dashed lines on the Bazooka cards have to be present. If it's cut within the lines, all you can get is an Authentic grade. That is my understanding.

You are right. Per PSA all 4 sides must show lines or you get a A. 1 out of 5 of my Jello cards received a grade the others all authentic.

[Bigb13]

That's great if they have lines a lot or most scraps are Auth but really when you look at some of them they deserve number grades.

Both PSA and SGC have given number grades to quite a few 1965 Topps Iron-On Transfers that were cut from rolls/sheets over the last few months.

These insert "cards" were extremely hard to find in high grade until several months ago when uncut stock turned up; since those uncut sheets were discovered, the high grade population for the star player cards from those sheets (Killebrew and Clemente, in particular) has exploded.

(I'm in the camp, however, that doesn't care whether cards are factory-cut or hand-cut, or designated any particular way on slab labels. As long as they measure correctly and are 100% original, I'm happy).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Karl Mattson

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(I'm in the camp, however, that doesn't care whether cards are factory-cut or hand-cut, or designated any particular way on slab labels. As long as they measure correctly and are 100% original, I'm happy).

I agree with this but like my hand cut cards to be full sized. I am not in the camp of putting a lot of credence in high grade, cut strip cards. I would guess many were cut very recently which is a turn off to "high grade" for me. But to each their own.....If folks want SGC 96 W515s more power to them. Sharp corners can be made at any time, just remember that.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sharp corners can be made at any time, just remember that.

"Oh that card seems oversized. I'll fix that." Well I'll be.... Now it's Gem Mint

Ugghh

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

"Oh that card seems oversized. I'll fix that." Well I'll be.... Now it's Gem Mint

Ugghh

And I should elaborate on my comment. I like strip cards a lot. I am not positive, but don't believe it is possible to absolutely tell "when" a strip card was cut.

Let me repeat, I really enjoy strip cards AND if folks want to collect high grade ones that is great...it means they definitely look nice, but, they should understand what they are paying for....

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by Leon

And I should elaborate on my comment. I like strip cards a lot. I am not positive, but don't believe it is possible to absolutely tell "when" a strip card was cut.

Let me repeat, I really enjoy strip cards AND if folks want to collect high grade ones that is great...it means they definitely look nice, but, they should understand what they are paying for....

I love the Post Cereal Sets. I need to check my sarcasm level before I get my coffee.

It took me a while to find a McMillan that would grade nicely. Plus that Gem 10 Ruth that was on TV. I just have a feeling more people will be doing the old snip snip.

Originally Posted by Leon

Sharp corners can be made at any time, just remember that.

I'm not sure what you mean by this - are you saying sharp corners can be made at any time while still maintaining correct card size and while also being undetectable to the major grading companies?

If an oversized card is trimmed to its correct/intended size, I don't care (it was done all the time in the 1970s and 1980s, and back then we actually thought of it as a good thing); if a card is correctly and professionally trimmed from a sheet or strip years after its date of issue, I don't care.

If a card is "stretched" and then trimmed, I absolutely don't approve of that - I'd consider that altering/doctoring, because material is being subtracted from the original card. But if it's undetectable, I don't know how you'd combat it. Avoiding cards with sharp corners may reduce your risk, but I don't think there's any shortage of manipulated cards in low grade collections, either.