PSA: N1:Evidence of Trimming

[bigfanNY]

IMHO I completely disagree with the advice others have given. The card was listed as being in VG shape and a trimmed card is not VG in anybody's book. and although outside Ebay's 30 day window to file they may be willing to step up. Paypal has a protection policy as well and it might help. BOTTOM LINE it is just not cool to sell trimmed cards. And when a TPG finds evidence of Trimming any seller should offer to take the card back. No one likes getting stuck with trimmed cards but it is not ok to crack them out and sell them on ebay and hope the clock ticks before it gets returned by the TPG. On the other hand if seller did not know then he should not have said it was in VG shape should have said he will only say it is authentic and grading is in eye of beholder. Seller absolutely should take the card back. Always two sides of a coin and that is the side I land on.

J

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

IMHO I completely disagree with the advice others have given. The card was listed as being in VG shape and a trimmed card is not VG in anybody's book.
J

That's a totally reasonable position to take and to be honest, if I were the seller, I'd take the card back.

That said, just as a heads up, the Very Good condition isn't the same as a VG grade. eBay's condition categories are completely different than what we use to grade cards. Instead of Mint, Near Mint, EX, etc., their categories are: Brand New, Like New, Very Good, Good, and Acceptable. Why they use them for cards is beyond me - they're more for items like clothing, DVDs, etc.

Technically, calling a trimmed card Very Good, even by their standards, is probably still wrong. But it's just hard to prove that the seller knew it was as such.

[Jantz]

"In PSA We Trust"

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

And that my friends is why graders are valuable

[iwantitiwinit]

I doubt the seller will take the card back, there is a reason it's not graded and it's stated no refunds. You get what you pay for and it continues to amaze me how many people will try and "get a deal" from someone that clearly is versed in selling cards. Notice how there were no other bidders for this card? So essentially you wanted a free look at the card, you bought it with the intention of flipping it now that it doesn't work out for you want your money back? No such thing as a free option.

[jcc6252]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

I doubt the seller will take the card back, there is a reason it's not graded and it's stated no refunds. You get what you pay for and it continues to amaze me how many people will try and "get a deal" from someone that clearly is versed in selling cards. Notice how there were no other bidders for this card? So essentially you wanted a free look at the card, you bought it with the intention of flipping it now that it doesn't work out for you want your money back? No such thing as a free option.

That's funny, it took a while, but finally here's the you deserve what you get comment, you are just like the rest of the smucks who try to get a deal comment. So, I guess I should never buy a nice looking raw card, especially from well "versed" sellers, because we know they would cheat you at any chance they get. They would never stand by their product's quality.
The card passed my inspection, the experts considered it trimmed. I wasn't looking to break the bank, I was looking to get the card slabbed and to sell it for it's graded value, not it's doctored value.

[ullmandds]

It has become a pretty successful marketing ploy over the years...to sell raw...seemingly high grade...altered cards on ebay preying on flippers hopes of grading and making a profit.

Its a risky proposition...live and learn.