March Autograph Pickups...

[thenavarro]

Paid off my last autograph layaway yesterday. It was for this beautifully bold John Hancock document

[packs]

Finally won a Maris. I've been looking for a signed card with a strong signature for a while now:

[bender07]

Originally Posted by packs

Finally won a Maris. I've been looking for a signed card with a strong signature for a while now:

Really sharp, that looks great. Congrats.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by packs

Finally won a Maris. I've been looking for a signed card with a strong signature for a while now:

Great card. That was my favorite card from the first year I ever collected. I would love to pick up an autographed version.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Great card. That was my favorite card from the first year I ever collected. I would love to pick up an autographed version.

Beautiful Roger Maris.

The 1965 Topps set is a favorite of mine.

[jimjim]

Although not a rare autograph, I have always loved this photo of Mickey. I used to stare at pictures of the 1952 Topps card and curse my Grandmother for throwing away my Dad's baseball cards. Finally was able to add one (not the baseball card!) to my collection.

[Klrdds]

Nice Mantle photo. It's always nice to find something you have been wanting. Remember we have all been victimized by unknowing organizational clean obsessed relatives at some point.

[rsn1661]

Love the photo. Looks like he is staring at something in a nearby parking lot.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

Paid off my last autograph layaway yesterday. It was for this beautifully bold John Hancock document

Is all of the handwriting by the guy whose name appears at the bottom?

Nice pick-up.

[jgmp123]

Some recent pickups...
John Tyler (I'll plan to upgrade this one later on)
Millard Fillmore
Martin Van Buren

[thenavarro]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Is all of the handwriting by the guy whose name appears at the bottom?

Nice pick-up.

I believe the upper portion through Barnard is penned by Hancock. Not sure about the lower portion.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

I believe the upper portion through Barnard is penned by Hancock. Not sure about the lower portion.

The signature at the bottom is that of James Scott, the Master of the vessel.
Take a look at that signature, and the line where (supposedly) Hancock wrote the Master's name. Both "James Scott"s were written by the same hand.
It is my belief that (authentication notwithstanding) the entire document was written by the ship's Master, Scott.
(Notice that the "J"s in John, and both Jameses are identical.)

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

Paid off my last autograph layaway yesterday. It was for this beautifully bold John Hancock document

Ive had my eye on one of these myself! Nice affordable way to get a pre declaration Hancock signature! May be my next autograph if I can find one at a reasonable price!

[David Atkatz]

Except for the fact that the document is not in Hancock's hand.

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Except for the fact that the document is not in Hancock's hand.

David these bills of lading have long been accepted to be in John Hancock's hand...Is there something about this that you can share with us that we dont know?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by w7imel

David these bills of lading have long been accepted to be in John Hancock's hand...Is there something about this that you can share with us that we dont know?

Sure--it couldn't be simpler. Look at the signature at the bottom, the signature of the ship's master, James Scott. Look at the "James." Notice it's exactly the same as the written "James Scott" in the third line--which is supposedly in Hancocks hand. Notice the "J" in the Scott signature at the bottom, the "J" in the written "James Scott" in the third line, and the "J" in the written "John Hancock." All identical.
Conclusion: The entire document was written by James Scott.

[7nohitter]

I agree with David and thought the same thing to myself...clearly all three J's are written by the same person

[jgmp123]

Outside of the "J"...take a look at the "O" in John and the "O" in Scott...identical, even down to the flick and carry to the next letter...

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Sure--it couldn't be simpler. Look at the signature at the bottom, the signature of the ship's master, James Scott. Look at the "James." Notice it's exactly the same as the written "James Scott" in the third line--which is supposedly in Hancocks hand. Notice the "J" in the Scott signature at the bottom, the "J" in the written "James Scott" in the third line, and the "J" in the written "John Hancock." All identical.
Conclusion: The entire document was written by James Scott.

Or could entire document been written by Hancock? Some of the lettering is in Hancocks style writing. Either the Whole item was written by James Scott or Hancock. I agree same person wrote whole document. This item almost identical to several I have seen at reputable auction houses and with PSA letters. Never seen one advertised as in someones hand other than Hancocks.

[packs]

The way the document is filled out it seems to me that Scott is the author and signer. His name appears at the bottom. It would be unusual for Hancock to sign his name at the top and Scott's name at the bottom. To me it is Scott filling in Hancock's name and signing his own.

Just an opinion of course.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Or could entire document been written by Hancock? Some of the lettering is in Hancocks style writing. Either the Whole item was written by James Scott or Hancock. I agree same person wrote whole document. This item almost identical to several I have seen at reputable auction houses and with PSA letters. Never seen one advertised as in someones hand other than Hancocks.

Because PSA is, as usual, dead wrong (And their examiner is simply not very bright.)
Read the document, which is a bill of lading. It clearly states that it is signed by th ship's master, James Scott. So, that is Scott's signature at the botttom. But, looking at the signature, and comparing with the rest of the writing, we see the entire document was written by the signer. James Scott.