Joe Orlando is lying fakes flips look real..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

Sean1125 just finished telling us he got caught up with forgeries. I can reasonably see someone ("Anyone") at a card show getting tricked by them at this level of sophistication. And, obviously others have been duped by these expensive forgeries or this thread wouldn't exist.

Now you're taking it a step further preaching exposure guarantees of Auction Houses and PSA authorized dealers yourself? For example the a dealer or AH might claim a card swap was done after the sale, same goes for PSA dealers, and PSA themself. It's a pretty hard thing to prove as a buyer. I know your treading on thin ice speaking absolutes on this subject.

right I agree, when it comes to money in life, people owing it or a dispute...is that the kind of thing that gets resolved easily? Always assume once you spend your money it will be hard to get back if you buy a fake and your expectations will match real life...