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Old 12-09-2014, 01:37 PM
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I would have voted for Gil Hodges--Dick Allen--Tony Oliva----Another thought is Roger Maris (is he off the ballot) Also for a 4 year run Check Ted Kluszewski 1953 .320 40HR--108RBi 1954 .316 49HR 141 Rbi---1955 .326 47HR 113 Rbi 1956 .314 35HR 102 RBi---I don't know what happened to him after that maybe injuries but if he would have hit like that for 10 years Wow----As for Joe Namath, he gets my vote--The Super Bowl of course was unique, but he had injuries most of his career---What would he have done in todays football Passing crazy era.
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Don he probably would do just what he did in his day -- throw a lot more picks than touchdowns.
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Don he probably would do just what he did in his day -- throw a lot more picks than touchdowns.
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I am not a stats only guy if I was Dave Krieg would have been in the Football Hall a long time ago.
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Brian - thanks for taking the time to give a very interesting analysis.

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For what it's worth.

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1.Lance Berkman (903)
2.Reggie Smith (894)
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6.George Foster (880)
7.Fred Lynn (875)
8.Tim Salmon (875)
9.Shawn Green (875)
10.Rocky Colavito (873)
Similarity is sometimes useful, sometimes not. Dick Allen was a dominant force in his era, leading the league in OPS four times and finishing with a career OPS+ of 156. Listing his "similar" guys doesn't really show how truly dominant he was during his career.
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At a quick glance, Colavito's run of big seasons appears superior to Allen's, except he wasn't winning titles because of guys like Maris and Mantle. Three 40 HR seasons, Allen had one. Six 100 RBI years, I believe Allen had only 2 or 3.
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If either Dick Allen or Tony Oliva belongs in the Hall with their 'abbreviated' careers, then wouldn't Don Mattingly be an absolute no-brainer??? 2100 hits, 1000+ RBI's and a .307 average in a career destroyed by injuries. He was a dominant force at the plate and far from shabby at first base.
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At a quick glance, Colavito's run of big seasons appears superior to Allen's, except he wasn't winning titles because of guys like Maris and Mantle. Three 40 HR seasons, Allen had one. Six 100 RBI years, I believe Allen had only 2 or 3.
Different eras, different leagues. Colavito also hit just .266, slugged just .489. Allen hit .292, slugged .534. Allen had an OPS+ of 156 - for his career.

That's why "a quick glance" ain't enough.

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