Happy Halloween Show your Ghosts!

[mrvster]

those back ghost underprints are factory cut

[shammus]

No Pre-WWI E-cards yet? Well here's one....

Not a true "ghost" in terms of the card being a wet-sheet-transfer, but because this Mordecai is missing so many color passes, the result is a very ghostlike version of Mordecai in this example...

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[MVSNYC]

Brian, I'm not knocking your card, but wasn't there someone (very skilled) who was shaving or skinning cards to create a ghostlike effect, like the above M. Brown example?

[shammus]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Brian, I'm not knocking your card, but wasn't there someone (very skilled) who was shaving or skinning cards to create a ghostlike effect, like the above M. Brown example?

News to me. This card came from the late Jim Blumenthal who owned the card for 10 years I believe, before he traded it to me in early august. He had acquired it in a Lipset auction back in 2004.

[insccollectibles]

This one has a stadium ghost

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC View Post
Brian, I'm not knocking your card, but wasn't there someone (very skilled) who was shaving or skinning cards to create a ghostlike effect, like the above M. Brown example?

Originally Posted by shammus

News to me. This card came from the late Jim Blumenthal who owned the card for 10 years I believe, before he traded it to me in early august. He had acquired it in a Lipset auction back in 2004.

Hey there Brian, MVSNYC(My Apologies, I'm terrible with remembering Names),

I Remember Jim's Card Very Well and Would Be Honored if ThiS Such Card Was iN My CollectioN!
As fir it being tampered with... if I remember correctly, this card was included in a topic of cards that were subject to "Someone's Work".

However, IMHO... JimB had owned and presented this card numerous of times that Well Predate such "Handy Work" of those involved wit creating "Fake Ghost Cards". So No, This Card iS True to the Hobby!

ThiS Card to me iS Iconic!!! And If You Ever Decide that You Might Want to Sell or Trade iT ~ Brian, Please Ring me uP!

"I Truly Would Love to add one of Jim's Cards to my Collection, Especially ThiS One!!!"

[shammus]

Originally Posted by irishdenny

Hey there Brian, MVSNYC(My Apologies, I'm terrible with remembering Names),

I Remember Jim's Card Very Well and Would Be Honored if ThiS Such Card Was iN My CollectioN!
As fir it being tampered with... if I remember correctly, this card was included in a topic of cards that were subject to "Someone's Work".

However, IMHO... JimB had owned and presented this card numerous of times that Well Predate such "Handy Work" of those involved wit creating "Fake Ghost Cards". So No, This Card iS True to the Hobby!

ThiS Card to me iS Iconic!!! And If You Ever Decide that You Might Want to Sell or Trade iT ~ Brian, Please Ring me uP!

"I Truly Would Love to add one of Jim's Cards to my Collection, Especially ThiS One!!!"

Thanks Denny, I appreciate the kind words. I'm curious how recently did this individual create his fake ghost cards? I know the mordecai brown pictured has been in a holder the past decade and I don't think there was any interest in ghosts or printing flubs prior to that was there? At least not enough interest for someone to be out there forging them...

[Bigb13]

image.jpgnot prewar but still cool

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by shammus

Thanks Denny, I appreciate the kind words. I'm curious how recently did this individual create his fake ghost cards? I know the mordecai brown pictured has been in a holder the past decade and I don't think there was any interest in ghosts or printing flubs prior to that was there? At least not enough interest for someone to be out there forging them...

Greeting AgaiN Brian!,

As far as I know & remember... There were very few of us who collected these types 10 + years or so ago(within the Net54 Community anyways). Back then... I had quite a few of them and even had a tuff time selling & trading them.

As for the Soul with the creative hand... About 2-4 years ago, Do You remember a lad by the name of Kevin Saucier(I believe that was his name!?) He showed up & claimed that he could remove layers of color... and that he new of some other who had created some of the cards that were in circulation that were gaining attention. He even claimed that PSA had labeled some of them "Missing Color"... I was not a believer then, nor am I now!

I do know that these threads should be available iN Archives... Only, I haven't the desire to drum them uP for the sake of side tracking this Wonderful Thread... So I do Hope that You'll forgive me

Rest assured my dear friend... iN my Most Humble OpinioN ~
Your Mordecai iS the Real Deal!
I have No Doubt!!!