Mantle Ball - UDA vs PSA 9

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Clueless

Those are NICE looking balls. Frankly, I don't see any toning on that first ball. Snow white in the pics. Which would you rather have, a uda toned ball or psa mint ball? (I'm talking about a ball with slightly more toning than yours.)

quite frankly, neither. I only want MINT baby MINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!would NEVER pay the premium for PSA to grade my balls, no pun intended.

I'd pass on both and move on. That's just me. It should be noted that I don't and won't collect anymore because of Anal Eddies (guys who have to have a COA), scam artists and E-bay working in conjunction to shove it in the A** of the sorry idiots that can't help themselves from buying forgeries trying to save a buck. COMPLETE MORONS

Either is an ok choice for authenticity purposes, but I think you're narrowing yourself into a corner, IMHO. KEEP LOOKING

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Either is an ok choice for authenticity purposes, but I think you're narrowing yourself into a corner, IMHO. KEEP LOOKING

You really believe a 3rd party authentication is just as good as a 1st party authentication?

[shelly]

I said this from the start. By a real Mantle ball that is clean and nice. UDA or not. If you see one you like and it is not authenticated show it here. Dont be a fool and buy a graded ball. It does not mean a thing.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by shelly

I said this from the start. By a real Mantle ball that is clean and nice. UDA or not. If you see one you like and it is not authenticated show it here. Dont be a fool and buy a graded ball. It does not mean a thing.

agreed Shelly. Some people have a hard time listening. I'm done trying to help people who can't help themselves and don't want to listen to people who know more than them on a particular subject.

I can only imagine how this anal attitude translates to business decisions?

The secret to my success in life is asking for advice from friends who know more than me on a particular subject. AND THEN LISTENING TO THEM. Is it really that hard, NO

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

agreed Shelly. Some people have a hard time listening. I'm done trying to help people who can't help themselves and don't want to listen to people who know more than them on a particular subject.

I can only imagine how this anal attitude translates to business decisions?

The secret to my success in life is asking for advice from friends who know more than me on a particular subject. AND THEN LISTENING TO THEM. Is it really that hard, NO

Calm down. I'm not saying I'm not listening to you or to Shelly. I'm learning from you both so I am listening. I'm also interested in hearing from others as to what they would do also. Everyone has a different opinion and in the end after listening to everyone, I'd like to form my own opinion. That's what these boards are for. To chat with other like minded individuals and share thoughts. Any other thoughts you care to continue sharing, I'll still be listening.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Clueless

Calm down. I'm not saying I'm not listening to you or to Shelly. I'm learning from you both so I am listening. I'm also interested in hearing from others as to what they would do also. Everyone has a different opinion and in the end after listening to everyone, I'd like to form my own opinion. That's what these boards are for. To chat with other like minded individuals and share thoughts. Any other thoughts you care to continue sharing, I'll still be listening.

I would not listen to anyone one that has given you a suggestion. You know what you want go a enjoy yourself.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would not listen to anyone one that has given you a suggestion. You know what you want go a enjoy yourself.

Actually, I'm not sure what I want. I want to be sure an autograph is authentic (at least as sure as I can be) and I also want an item that is rare (mint condition). Finding both is very difficult as one other already person noted saying most UDA balls are toned. Thus, it would be helpful to me to hear how others would handle the same situation. If we all just said to do whatever I want and that's all, these boards would be useless to ask any advice. I take it many on here know a lot more than me and I would be interested in hearing these thoughts. In the end, I can determine if I find value in what others say.

From what I've gathered thus far, UDA would provide me with comfort the signature is 100% authentic. However, the toning on the ball means the mint graded ball would carry a greater value if I ever wanted to sell the item down the line. Regardless of whether or not one favors PSA, there is no denying their value in the marketplace.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Clueless

as one other already person noted saying most UDA balls are toned.

So UDA uses special balls that tone more than other baseballs. Okay, that makes sense.

[Klrdds]

I think I would wait for a better ball , because it seems that you are unsure what to do and that is not unusual in this hobby, we all have faced that situation before. I would look at my budget and see what I can afford and get the best ball possible when I can afford it even if it is a 10( that is the only grade Mantle I would even consider becaiuse they are available) . Mantle is neither rare or expensive, for most of his baseballs . But keep in mind that PSA and JSA are not infallible as this site and common knowledge have shown; however UDA will give you an "ironclad" item that may tone over time, but ANY autographed ball can tone over time no matter who or where you bought it from; so long term toning can be an issue based on many factors not just the vendor.
Also most Mantle balls are not great investments, in my opinion, because their prices have stabilized and there are plenty of authentic ones to choose from.
Good Luck