Mantle Ball - UDA vs PSA 9

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Clueless

Thanks. I was able to confirm the authenticity of the UDA ball with Upper Deck. As to the toning issue, is there any risk that a PSA mint 9 ball would eventually tone as well, which would no longer make it a mint ball just as a result of time? I wonder how valuable a mint ball is if it will eventually lose its condition over time. I know it comes down to me, but what would you do?

If it is on a BB ball and it hasnt gone bad by now. I would not worry about. I just dont think you should pay extra for a graded ball. Go look on line and see if you see a nice uda ball and buy it. I would rather have a UDA ball over a JSA any time.
They are not signed in front of a notery.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by shelly

If it is on a BB ball and it hasnt gone bad by now. I would not worry about. I just dont think you should pay extra for a graded ball. Go look on line and see if you see a nice uda ball and buy it. I would rather have a UDA ball over a JSA any time.
They are not signed in front of a notery.

I just don't quite understand why the PSA graded ball always seems to sell at a higher price than a UDA first person authenticated ball. Not sure which will retain greater value in the future.

[w7imel]

are you looking to keep it or sell it? If I am keeping it i would much rather have a ball that is known to be authentic that a ball that has someones "expert opinion" its real just my feeling on it. PSA has done a great job of convincing public that if they certify item its 100 percent legit. As we have seen not always the case. Do your research and be comfortable with ball you buy. If anything these guys have taught me its that. DYODD

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Clueless

I just don't quite understand why the PSA graded ball always seems to sell at a higher price than a UDA first person authenticated ball. Not sure which will retain greater value in the future.

Because it is all bs. If your buying the ball to keep. Buy the UDA ball and be happy. It is total garbage gradeing a ball. It can fade it can become spoted or it can be handled the wrong way and there goes your bs nine.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by shelly

Because it is all bs. If your buying the ball to keep. Buy the UDA ball and be happy. It is total garbage gradeing a ball. It can fade it can become spoted or it can be handled the wrong way and there goes your bs nine.

Good point. If Mick was signed to a contract with UDA near the end of his career, I wonder how it is that he was able to sign a pristine ball as I do not believe the signature predated 1990, after which he was under UDA contract. I guess you just have to trust PSA on that. But yeah, seems strange to me that a ball with an opinion can cost so much more than a ball that is first person authenticated. Doesn't make any sense to me.

[packs]

Won't every ball turn brown eventually? I know UV cases have only been around for so long, but it seems like leather will always age. Or at least it has aged in a consistent way for a long time.

[w7imel]

Mickey signed with UDA after his career and closer to his death, he signed with them mid 90's if memory severs well. He did alot of card shows as well mid 90's before he died. If it is UDA authenticated it was signed long after his playing days. As far as ball toning as I understand it the balls from bobby brown made in haiti didnt use distilled water and that led to it but besides that keeping in an UV case should really help. someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by packs

Won't every ball turn brown eventually? I know UV cases have only been around for so long, but it seems like leather will always age. Or at least it has aged in a consistent way for a long time.

I have two team-signed balls that are over 40 years old, and both look brand-new. Entropy eventually gets everything, but it could be thousands of years.

[w7imel]

do you display theses balls scott? if so in a UV holder?