OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his Hall chances

[ctownboy]

Yes, Dunn is doing what he usually does; laughing, being a class clown, swinging for the fences and hitting home runs. And the team he plays for is also doing the same thing - losing.

With Dunn on the team and hitting home runs, the A's are 1 and 2. Dunn said he is having fun and might reconsider retiring.

Yeah right.

Just wait until the A's have lost five in a row, Dunn has gone 0 for 20 with 12 strike outs, no rbi's and has not come through with runners in scoring position in a close game. When the fans start booing him, like fans from EVERY team he has played on has done, then this talk about not retiring will end.

As to him being a nice guy. Go to the chatboards of EVERY team that he has ever played for and see what they say about him. Usually a few things come through loud and clear.

1) Dunn seems to be a nice guy.
2) The fans are glad he is no longer playing for their team.

David

[Runscott]

David, what's your problem? Go for a jog or something.

edited to add smiley, as there was no anger intended in my post

[ctownboy]

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

[brob28]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

LOL, cant disagree with any of that! As a long suffering White Sox fan these last 3+ years have been miserable watching him. I've never seen anyone get fooled so often by off-speed pitches.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

Nice post, David. It illustrates that there really is some value in having a good personality.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

And the team he plays for is also doing the same thing - losing.

He's only played 3 games with the A's (and was only a PH in one of those games). As Scott pointed out earlier in the thread, maybe he just needed a change of scenery. Since joining the team, he's gone 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs - that's 1/3 of their runs in those 3 games and, again, he only had 1 AB in one of those games. A's losing and it's Dunn's fault? Really?

Originally Posted by ctownboy

his going into the tank EVERY September.

I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?

Originally Posted by ctownboy

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play?

Ummm, being from Houston, I followed him his entire career.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Ummm, being from Houston, I followed him his entire career.

As an Astros fan, you are.......Dunn

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?

But he's not winning games single-handedly. If he was any good, he'd also be encouraging his pitchers to do a better job.

"Hey Lester - I'm gonna hit one HR, but I need you to not give up two, as I can't get anyone else on our side to hit one."

[ctownboy]

Typical response from Dunn fans - it's the pitchers fault. He is only one guy on the team. Yada. Yada. Yada.

Adam Dunn is a beer league softball player playing home run derby. That is it. I said that in 2007 and it is still true today.

Four years ago, Dunn signed a 4 year, $60 million dollar contract with the White Sox. In 2011, his first year with the team, at age 31, in 415 at bats, Dunn had the following stats: 11 home runs, 36 runs scored, 42 rbi, 75 walks, 177 strike outs, .159 batting average, .292 OBP, .277 slugging percentage, .569 OPS and a NEGATIVE 3.1 WAR.

A middle of the order hitter getting paid $15 million dollars a year to produce that. How is THAT the pitchers fault? Yes, Dunn is only one guy on the team but when you are one of the highest paid players on the team and you produce like that, don't you think the OTHER players on the team try to do more than they are capable of to try and offset what doesn't ISN'T producing?

Dunn is getting paid $15 million dollars this year to be a platoon DH. Think about THAT?

David

[ctownboy]

Dunn was born and raised just outside of Houston. I always laughed at Dunn when the Reds played the Astros.

Dunn wouldn't hustle one bit when he played other teams but when he was playing the Astros, especially in Houston, he would do things he NEVER did anytime else. Dunn would steal bases, run hard for balls in the outfield and try to hit the ball to the opposite field. Dunn didn't mind getting booed EXCEPT when it was the Astros. He played hard in front of the home town fans.

I always thought it would be good for Dunn to play for Houston. Then, I thought about it and saw how wrong I was.

If he played for the Astros, it would mean he would have to hustle, play hard and stay in shape the whole year, things that Dunn could never do for long stretches of time. So it became obvious why he never played for them.

David

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Typical response from Dunn fans - it's the pitchers fault. He is only one guy on the team. Yada. Yada. Yada.

Dunn accounted for the only run in the game for the A's, yet it is his fault they lost

Given your other comments, you must be one handsome, athletic, intelligent dude.

[Peter_Spaeth]

[QUOTE=vintagetoppsguy;1318369}
I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

How's Adam doing, we haven't heard from you?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How's Adam doing, we haven't heard from you?

Since joining the A's, he's batting .278 (better than his career average) with 2 HRs and 7 RBIs. Adam will be gald you asked about him

[packs]

I still believe that 500 homers is the magic number and should be a lock. The only players to eclipse that mark and not be voted in are suspected or admitted cheaters. If you have to cheat to accomplish a feat like 500 homers, then that must mean there is some significance to the accomplishment.

Craig Biggio reached 3,000 hits without ever being a great player. No MVP awards, though he did receive votes. Since he didn't make it, is the new number 3,500 hits? 3,250?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Since joining the A's, he's batting .278 (better than his career average) with 2 HRs and 7 RBIs. Adam will be gald you asked about him

Don't sell that pile of Dunn rookies just yet!!

[sayhey24]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Since joining the A's, he's batting .278 (better than his career average) with 2 HRs and 7 RBIs. Adam will be gald you asked about him

Those numbers translate to 21 HR and 75 RBI over the course of a 150 game season -- those aren't the numbers you're looking for from a player whose only calling card for the Hall of Fame is his power.

Greg