OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his Hall chances

[ls7plus]

Adam's been "Dunn" for some time now. With or without 500 HR, he would not have been a HOF'er. See Fred McGriff!

Best to all,

Larry

[Runscott]

That shot yesterday was a moon shot, and off Felix. I don't think I've ever watched Dunn swing up to that point - he doesn't get cheated.

Root sports showed a Dunn interview after the game, where he talked about hitting against Felix. Not sure if it was filmed before or after, but I really liked the guy - very, very personable. I hope this resurrects his career and he makes the HOF.

[ctownboy]

Yes, Dunn is doing what he usually does; laughing, being a class clown, swinging for the fences and hitting home runs. And the team he plays for is also doing the same thing - losing.

With Dunn on the team and hitting home runs, the A's are 1 and 2. Dunn said he is having fun and might reconsider retiring.

Yeah right.

Just wait until the A's have lost five in a row, Dunn has gone 0 for 20 with 12 strike outs, no rbi's and has not come through with runners in scoring position in a close game. When the fans start booing him, like fans from EVERY team he has played on has done, then this talk about not retiring will end.

As to him being a nice guy. Go to the chatboards of EVERY team that he has ever played for and see what they say about him. Usually a few things come through loud and clear.

1) Dunn seems to be a nice guy.
2) The fans are glad he is no longer playing for their team.

David

[Runscott]

David, what's your problem? Go for a jog or something.

edited to add smiley, as there was no anger intended in my post

[ctownboy]

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

[brob28]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

LOL, cant disagree with any of that! As a long suffering White Sox fan these last 3+ years have been miserable watching him. I've never seen anyone get fooled so often by off-speed pitches.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Uh, no.

If people who haven't seen Dunn play for a long period of time can come on this board and slobber all over his big, overweight butt then I can come on here and tell the other side of the story.

The story about fans having to put up with his horrible defense, his station to station baserunning ability, his failure to hit the ball to the opposite field, his failure to drive in runs in key situations, his 30% strike out rate, his failure to get into shape and stay in shape, his failure to work on his game over the Winter, his going into the tank EVERY September.

For those espousing Dunn for the Hall Of Fame, I would like to know how many have actually watched him over an entire season? I would like to know how many have seen him be totally inept at the plate for an entire month, then get hot for two weeks and then be inept for another entire month.

I spent my money going to Reds games when he played for Cincinnati and all I saw was an overweight oaf who lumbered around in the outfield and who struck out on called third strikes with runners on or in scoring position. He struck out on those pitches because they were over the outer third of the plate and he was too stubborn to stop swinging for the fences, trying to pull the ball for a home run.

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play? I will tell you, the more you do, the worse he gets and the more it will bother you that he is paid millions of dollars to be the fraternity class clown.

David

Nice post, David. It illustrates that there really is some value in having a good personality.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

And the team he plays for is also doing the same thing - losing.

He's only played 3 games with the A's (and was only a PH in one of those games). As Scott pointed out earlier in the thread, maybe he just needed a change of scenery. Since joining the team, he's gone 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs - that's 1/3 of their runs in those 3 games and, again, he only had 1 AB in one of those games. A's losing and it's Dunn's fault? Really?

Originally Posted by ctownboy

his going into the tank EVERY September.

I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?

Originally Posted by ctownboy

So for every Dunn butt kisser, I want to know how many times YOU have actually seen him play?

Ummm, being from Houston, I followed him his entire career.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Ummm, being from Houston, I followed him his entire career.

As an Astros fan, you are.......Dunn

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?

But he's not winning games single-handedly. If he was any good, he'd also be encouraging his pitchers to do a better job.

"Hey Lester - I'm gonna hit one HR, but I need you to not give up two, as I can't get anyone else on our side to hit one."

[Peter_Spaeth]

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I realize we're only 3 games into the month, but isn't 4 for 8 with 2 HRs and 4 RBIs is a pretty good start to September, or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

How's Adam doing, we haven't heard from you?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Runscott

That shot yesterday was a moon shot, and off Felix. I don't think I've ever watched Dunn swing up to that point - he doesn't get cheated.

Root sports showed a Dunn interview after the game, where he talked about hitting against Felix. Not sure if it was filmed before or after, but I really liked the guy - very, very personable. I hope this resurrects his career and he makes the HOF.

Do you think a good personality adds to a players HOF chance? I do, but that's just my opinion and I don't have anything to back that up. I mentioned Ozzie Smith earlier in this thread and he had a great personality - very likable - unlike a lot of players today.

I could realistically see Dunn playing 3 more years, averaging 30 HRs a year. That puts him at +/- 550 HRs and I think he would get some serious consideration at that point given his personality and the lack of PEDs. Will it happen? Who knows, but I'd like to think so.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Do you think a good personality adds to a players HOF chance? I do, but that's just my opinion and I don't have anything to back that up. I mentioned Ozzie Smith earlier in this thread and he had a great personality - very likable - unlike a lot of players today.

I could realistically see Dunn playing 3 more years, averaging 30 HRs a year. That puts him at +/- 550 HRs and I think he would get some serious consideration at that point given his personality and the lack of PEDs. Will it happen? Who knows, but I'd like to think so.

Certainly personality is also a big factor. Look at Albert Belle and Kirby Puckett.

[brob28]

[QUOTE=Runscott;1318331]That shot yesterday was a moon shot, and off Felix. I don't think I've ever watched Dunn swing up to that point - he doesn't get cheated.

Interesting you mention this Scott. I've watched quite a bit of Dunn the last 3+ years and he doesn't change his approach no matter what the situation or batting count is. Always a big swing vs. attempting to put the ball in play with two strikes. Blows my mind that he never realized that with his strength good things are likely to happen if he just puts the ball in play. Perhaps he has tried and isn't able to make the adjustment. He also rarely goes the opposite way anymore despite aggressive shifts against him. FWIW - I don't see him in the Hall - what he's done the last few years took that off the table.