Issue with Probstein (and nothing to do with Shill Bidding)

[Peter_Spaeth]

His feedback is 100 percent, although he has 122 neutrals and 18 negatives. To me, 100 percent is a perfect record, but I guess ebay rounds up?

[Matt E.]

His turn is coming.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Explain to me what is crazy about it? That he satisfies high end customers and f's over the lesser along with shilling auctions? Doesn't seem crazy to me. It sounds right on point.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Explain to me what is crazy about it? That he satisfies high end customers and f's over the lesser along with shilling auctions? Doesn't seem crazy to me. It sounds right on point.

Nothing...

With all the fraud in our hobby being brought to light….having that thought or concern cross one’s mind seems far from crazy. Now if you said aliens from area 51 were taking the cards off world…I would agree that’s crazy everyone knows aliens hate baseball.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Explain to me what is crazy about it? That he satisfies high end customers and f's over the lesser along with shilling auctions? Doesn't seem crazy to me. It sounds right on point.

Jason- My response of "being crazy" was based on your point about him stealing cards being not to far of a stretch...Nothing at all pertaining shilling accusations...

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Jason- My response of "being crazy" was based on your point about him stealing cards being not to far of a stretch...Nothing at all pertaining shilling accusations...

Yeah, I can't imagine a guy who is willing to break the law one way in his auctions being tempted to break it in another way. Like maybe obstructing justice, altering cards, selling fakes, etc. etc. I mean it's not like such a guy was in the news say, a few days ago, doing the same thing. Just impossible to imagine.

[CMIZ5290]

Jeff- I was simply pointing out accusations of Probstein stealing cards. That's laughable. These threads about bid shilling have been going on since King Kong was a squirrel monkey....Where does it get us? What is the resolve?

[calvindog]

Kevin, I'm at a loss in trying to decipher your point here. You might as well say "How does the prosecution and conviction of multiple owners of auction houses get me 8 OC T206 cards?"

Why are drug dealers prosecuted? After all, illegal drugs are still on the street. Why do we prosecute stock market fraudsters? Fraud in the market still exists. What's the resolve?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Jeff- I was simply pointing out accusations of Probstein stealing cards. That's laughable. These threads about bid shilling have been going on since King Kong was a squirrel monkey....Where does it get us? What is the resolve?

All those threads do help in my opinion, the problem is some people ignore what a piece of work he is and still do business with him anyway. Because as we all know $ is king. The only thing that will be laughable is when Rick screws over the people that stick up for him, then I will laugh.

[PM770]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

His feedback is 100 percent, although he has 122 neutrals and 18 negatives. To me, 100 percent is a perfect record, but I guess ebay rounds up?

How can feedback be 100% if there are 18 negatives? Is his feedback being shilled too?

[jhs5120]

I'm surprised no one mentioned he's in the process of moving.. I visited his offices a couple weeks ago and everything was being packed up and moved. If you've ever seen the amount of inventory in his office you'd understand how much of a hassle it must be.

To the OP; there's no excuse for bad customer service, but I would give him a call instead of email. I've found that when an item doesn't sell it ends up as a very low priority. I'm sure he'll be happy enough to mail the cards back to you or relist them. It has happened to me before.