Could this be a real Cobb auto?

[William Farrell]

Originally Posted by thebigtrain

I was joking of course guys lol.

Also, it seems like the forgeries lately are getting cruder and cruder. I really wonder if there are any actual "consignors" or if the owners of CC just forge the stuff themselves.

The later I'm sure. IMO, a handwriting analyst would find upwards of 80% of all items signed by deceased players to be executed by the same hand, and the writing implements do not appear to differ as well.

The same signature errors appear on almost all of the Ruths, trajectory approached from angles that Ruth's signature writing mechanism could not have executed, and this is true of many other players as well.

There are even some examples that appear to be directly copied (very slowly drawn with multiple retracing of the written line) from forged exemplars (yes, forgeries of forgeries), which is why for the most part, the signatures are performed so poorly, whoever is doing this is absolutely the most talentless forger in the world, IMO. It's so obvious that they may as well sign an old Bible, "Best Wishes, Moses 1455 B.C."

[thebigtrain]

The 2 or 3 fully signed Bealtes albums offered every month on CC (mostly American Capital Records releases, some of which are likely later stereo reisssues that date to after Lennon's death in 1980) are even more absurd than the sports items.

Authentic signed Beatles albums are EXTREMELY rare. I believe there are less than 30 to 50 real ones verified to exist, and most signed albums are the British parlphone release of "Please Please Me" which was released in England in summer of 1963, before they became so famous that they were totally inaccessible. Once they hit it big in America, there was no way for any ordinary fans to get access to them anymore, and few fans carried albums around with them to get signed.

When authentic copies do come up for sale, they bring prices in the 30 to 60 K range. The coach's forgeries usually sell for between 100 and 250 bucks.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by thebigtrain

The 2 or 3 fully signed Bealtes albums offered every month on CC (mostly American Capital Records releases, some of which are likely later stereo reisssues that date to after Lennon's death in 1980) are even more absurd than the sports items.

Authentic signed Beatles albums are EXTREMELY rare. I believe there are less than 30 to 50 real ones verified to exist, and most signed albums are the British parlphone release of "Please Please Me" which was released in England in summer of 1963, before they became so famous that they were totally inaccessible. Once they hit it big in America, there was no way for any ordinary fans to get access to them anymore, and few fans carried albums around with them to get signed.

When authentic copies do come up for sale, they bring prices in the 30 to 60 K range. The coach's forgeries usually sell for between 100 and 250 bucks.

Ted Taylor, who is either a complicit authenticator or totally incompetent, has "authenticated" hundreds of Beatles signed (forgeries, of course) albums for Roach's Corner (Lee Trythall and Scott Malack).