Problems with two championship rings in upcoming Heritage Auction

[keithsky]

I always get the impression that when a collector calls out an item as being fake or not authentic to an auction house they almost never look into it because it makes them look bad in there mind and they want to look like they know more than everyone else so they treat you like you don't know what your talking about. Just like the TPA's, have you ever seen them change there mind on anything. I haven't. Bad for business to not look smarter than the everyday collector. In my opinion the guys on this forum know way more than some of these auction houses and TPA's. I value the guys on Net54 alot and there knowledge.

[Jewish-collector]

Michael - If you have a shouting match at the Heritage booth about this ring, let us all know so we can watch the action take place.

See you in Cleveland !!!

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Michael - If you have a shouting match at the Heritage booth about this ring, let us all know so we can watch the action take place.

See you in Cleveland !!!

And please make sure a popcorn maker is close by...I'm ready for a show! Seriously though, I know nothing about rings, but I do know that if I was looking to purchase, Michael is one of the first people I would go to. Just like with autographs, this forum exists for collectors to help each other out and better the hobby. People like Michael that invest emotion in the hobby are the people that make the difference.

[sports-rings]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Michael - If you have a shouting match at the Heritage booth about this ring, let us all know so we can watch the action take place.

See you in Cleveland !!!

Wish I was going, but not this year.

Hauls of shame has reported today that Heritage has pulled the 1882 Reds pocket watch from the Platinum Auction.

Not sure if it had anything to do with Peter Nash's article on the Heritage auction today.

Maybe the crew at Heritage will have more time now to look into those two Steeler rings again. It seems that the consensus by other net54 readers is that the two Steeler rings look like they were tampered with.

Ring expert Scott Welkowsky concluded the same thing.

[zachtruitt]

Thanks for saving some people a lot of money!!
I know zero about rings but do you think the original owner had the ring totally fabricated from scratch or did he modify an existing ring? Thanks!

[sports-rings]

Originally Posted by zachtruitt

Thanks for saving some people a lot of money!!
I know zero about rings but do you think the original owner had the ring totally fabricated from scratch or did he modify an existing ring? Thanks!

Heritage did a nice job showing the manufacturer's engraving on the inside band of the Superbowl XIII ring. I have pictures of a player's ring to compare, and I have found that the markings are identical. This means the Superbowl XIII ring was really made by Jostens and the ring is real. I believe is was modified with the name Edwards, a jersey number and position. The ring was probably originally a salesman sample.

Chris Ivy, in an email to me around a week ago, agreed with my opinion.

I believe the super bowl X ring was a real ring too, and my opinion is it was modified with the name "Edwards" added to it.

[sports-rings]

I visited the Heritage site today and they still have not changed their listings. The rings are climbing in price and looks like a winning bidder will need to shell out close to or perhaps more than 5 figures per ring.

I noticed that Heritage has a feature that lets you blow up the items. These rings look much worse when blown up.

You will notice on the real superbowl X rings, (the rings with the yellow-gold background) how straight the letters are at the top of the last names. Now look at the Edwards name below:

If anyone feels the way I do, perhaps you can contact Chris Ivy or better yet visit their booth at the National and try to speak to them. Hopefully you won't get yelled at.