The mystique of the SOVEREIGN 350 "apple green" cards......Show us your green apples

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Ha, Ted as far as toughness goes in what order would you rank the Sovereigns from 1 to 4 in you experiences putting the sets together? Thanks. Dennis.

An interesting question, Dennis

I'll describe my experience which will not be typical.

In November of 2006, I had completed my all-PIEDMONT set of 519 cards. I really enjoyed the challenge of that project, so I got started on an all SOVEREIGN set
with only 22 Sovereign cards in my collection. But, I was very lucky. Barry Sloate had acquired a collection of 300+ Sovereign cards. I won 262 cards from Barry's
auction.
Eleven months later, November 2007, I completed the Sovereign set of 402 different cards. Plus, an additional 6 cards of the rare SOVEREIGN 460 versions of the
six Super-Prints.

So, I really cannot give you an accurate number of how tough it is to put together this set. I'm sure it would have taken me several years to complete it, if I had
not acquired those 262 Sovereign cards. However, I can tell you that the toughest part of completing this set will be the "hunt" for these 66 "apple green" cards.


Anyway, on any given day on Ebay, there are 200+ assorted Sovereign cards to choose from. Furthermore, on occasion, Sovereign's show up in Auctions, or in BB
card shows. Therefore, I would suggest to anyone considering working on this Sovereign run of 402 cards, unless you are a very patient collector, wait for a large
"find" of Sovereign cards to surface and acquire them.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Let's continue the conversation on this subject a little longer with this interesting bit of information.

OK, the 66 apple green Sovereign's represent 16.5% of the 402 cards in the Sovereign set.

Yet, on any given day on Ebay, there are 200 - 300 Sovereign cards listed. On the average, only 8% of these cards are the apple green cards.

This fact is statistically consistent with my earlier contention that these 66 subjects are considerably tougher to find than the other 336 cards
that make up this set.

Furthermore, data from large T206 surveys also support this premise.


T-Rex TED
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[caramelcard]

Here's two that aren't on your lists above.

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[caramelcard]

"Can't recall ever seeing a two same namer with an apple green Sovereign back either"

Here you go:

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[Tobacco&Gum]

My one and only AG Sovereign.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Tobacco&Gum

My one and only AG Sovereign.

I found the Sovereign Kleinow to be one of the tougher apple green cards in my quest to complete my set.

Thanks for posting it.



TED Z
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by caramelcard

"Can't recall ever seeing a two same namer with an apple green Sovereign back either"

Here you go:

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Please email me......

tedzan11@comcast.net

Thanks,

Ted Z

[the 'stache]

Ted, this has been an absolute treat to read. Thank you! I only wish I had some cards to contribute. Soon, perhaps.

[tedzan]

I really appreciate your complimentary comments.


TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by caramelcard

Here's two that aren't on your lists above.

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Check out again my 66-subject list (Post #27), and you'll see that your Frank Smith (white cap) is on it.

Your Donohue is 150/350 subject and cannot have an apple green back. It's back is normal green.

And, a big THANKS for posting your Cobb with the two same names. I like this "gem" because it lends credence
to the Double-Printing of the six super-prints that I have diagramed in my hypothetical 72-card sheet



TED Z

[HercDriver]

Originally Posted by caramelcard

Here's two that aren't on your lists above.

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Those two cards are both on the list Ted has above.

Cheers,
Geno

[tedzan]

Rob was correct regarding Donohue. Donohue was missing in my SOVEREIGN 150 list in Post #21.
I have since added him to the list.

Thanks Rob for noting that omission.


TED Z

[JerryTotino]

Ted,

This is my only example:

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Murphy_Batting__Sovereign_350_Apple_Green_Front_SGC_60.jpg

As a side note has anyone else noticed that a large % of the Apple Green Sovereign backs appear to have product stains. It's as if they were packaged a little differently and came more in contact with the product.

Thanks,

Jerry

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by JerryTotino

Ted,

This is my only example:

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As a side note has anyone else noticed that a large % of the Apple Green Sovereign backs appear to have product stains. It's as if they were packaged a little differently and came more in contact with the product.

Thanks,

Jerry

I went thru my entire SOVEREIGN set (and 42 duplicates), but noticed only 6 cards that had a hint of tobacco staining on the backs of them.

Here's the Series breakdown of these 6 cards......

2....150 series

2....350 series (normal green)

1....350 series (apple green)

1....460 series


TED Z
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