SGC Response concerning new labels

[nolemmings]

First of all, there does seem to be a consensus on a flip here, but there's even more of a consensus on the fact that the current one is no good.

Second, if you want inane, compare your reference to a thread some years ago, among collectors of all types including Barry Sloate, who as I recall has little to no direct interest in graded cards, about the logistics of when and where to meet for dinner in NYC to this one about the manner in which a grading company conducts its business. That is inane.

We get your point, as inartfully and repetitively as it has been made. Feel free to keep poking-- I don't give twodeuces.

[Peter_Spaeth]

SGC has changed its flip
doo da doo daa
No more green around the lip
oh da doo da day
Gonna be all white
What an awful day
No more money to Parsippany
I'm off to PSA.

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SGC has changed its flip
doo da doo daa
No more green around the lip
oh da doo da day
Gonna be all white
What an awful day
No more money to Parsippany
I'm off to PSA.

No. They changed to 1/2 grades and everyone quit them too. I guess it's off to Pro. But that doesn't rhyme with day.

[bobbyw8469]

Don't tell me the flips don't matter. If that was true, then GAI, CSA, and PRO would all be selling for big money! After all, it is not about the flip, it is about the card! You can look at the card and see how good it is!

Everyone knows that is not true however. GAI cards sell for crap. Even SGC cards don't sell nowhere near the PSA equivalent for certain cards.

And yes....if a label looks like one of those fly by night graders that I used to laugh about when I first entered this hobby years ago, then it is going to be perceived as being inferior. That is why some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations - to prevent the neighbor from painting his house polka dot and looking all crazy.

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Don't tell me the flips don't matter. If that was true, then GAI, CSA, and PRO would all be selling for big money! After all, it is not about the flip, it is about the card! You can look at the card and see how good it is!

Everyone knows that is not true however. GAI cards sell for crap. Even SGC cards don't sell nowhere near the PSA equivalent for certain cards.

And yes....if a label looks like one of those fly by night graders that I used to laugh about when I first entered this hobby years ago, then it is going to be perceived as being inferior. That is why some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations - to prevent the neighbor from painting his house polka dot and looking all crazy.

Huh? We aren't talking grading companies. We aren't comparing PRO to SGC. We are talking about the paper label. The flip doesn't bring the money. The name of the TPG does. The label could be pink with polka dots as long as it said SGC. After a few months all will be forgiven.

[calvindog]

Guys, SGC isn't PRO or GAI. It's also not even PSA when it comes to customer service and integrity. Unlike PSA they actually listen to their customer base and don't get defensive upon criticism. I'm sure they're reading this thread and your voices are heard.

[deadballpaul]

I like the new flips better. Edited to say now I'm not so sure now. At least the cert number is easier to read for my old eyes.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, SGC isn't PRO or GAI. It's also not even PSA when it comes to customer service and integrity. Unlike PSA they actually listen to their customer base and don't get defensive upon criticism. I'm sure they're reading this thread and your voices are heard.

Then Jeff you never heard some of the conversations I had with Mr. Skeffington when I was at Beckett.

Rich

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

First of all, there does seem to be a consensus on a flip here, but there's even more of a consensus on the fact that the current one is no good.

Second, if you want inane, compare your reference to a thread some years ago, among collectors of all types including Barry Sloate, who as I recall has little to no direct interest in graded cards, about the logistics of when and where to meet for dinner in NYC to this one about the manner in which a grading company conducts its business. That is inane.

We get your point, as inartfully and repetitively as it has been made. Feel free to keep poking-- I don't give twodeuces.

You have collectors of all types in this very thread with opinions on the design.
And I thought I was very artful?