New SGC Look?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

+1

Why on Earth would they change the flip so drastically? Looks very early 1990's, when all of those start-up grading companies were trying to break in...Bad idea.

Hey Mike
Did you see the new flip just posted above? It is anything but poorly done or 1990s, in my not so humble opinion. It looks very nice to me but would be even better with a green border. I am not OCD and don't care as much about the holders as I do the cards.....and realize it does matter more to many other collectors so am not pushing my thoughts on others. I am merely giving one opinion.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Mike
Did you see the new flip just posted above? It is anything but poorly done or 1990s, in my not so humble opinion. It looks very nice to me but would be even better with a green border. I am not OCD and don't care as much about the holders as I do the cards.....and realize it does matter more to many other collectors so am not pushing my thoughts on others. I am merely giving one opinion.

Hey Leon- it's fine for us to disagree...I'm a designer, and do have a pretty keen eye. the proposed (borderless) flip is not attractive. period. I cannot be convinced otherwise. SGC's customer service is top notch, and so is their grading...my comments are strictly about the new flip. adding a green border will help somewhat, but i stand by my comment that it looks very 1990's (see early CSA cards).

[Pythonfactory]

I'll throw in my two cents just in case SGC actually reads this.

The new, borderless flip looks like something I would print at home (i.e., cheap and unprofessional). I like how the original green border eases the stark contrast between the white label and black background. The bajillion SGC's on the new label aren't pretty either. I have a hard time believing that anyone with substantial graphic design experience could ever produce something so unappealing. In just a few minutes, members of this board have produced higher quality flips.

Also, I don't like the red for Authentic. Is green + Authentic not clear enough? I think the red is distracting and doesn't add any value.

I've asked a neutral third party who could careless about baseball cards and she ranks the flips accordingly (best to worst): old one, new one if it had a border, and new one without border.

I see the SGC holder's current appearance as a competitive advantage. I have no clue (even after reading the response from SGC) why they would mess with success. I'm sure there are some other aspects of their business that would be a much better investment of their time/money.

In summary: keep the old flip or go back to the drawing board with some new artists.

[frankbmd]

Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Then SGC changed their flip this way
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly, my cards seem half of what they used to be
No green borders on the flips I see
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

Why the flip had to go I don't know they wouldn't say
Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play
I liked S G C, not P S A
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Why the flip had to change I don't know they wouldn't say
Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play
I liked S G C, not P S A
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Mm mm mm mm mm mm mm

[Peter_Spaeth]

Lol.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Then SGC changed their flip this way
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly, my cards seem half of what they used to be
No green borders on the flips I see
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

Why the flip had to go I don't know they wouldn't say
Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play
I liked S G C, not P S A
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Why the flip had to change I don't know they wouldn't say
Did I say something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, TPG was such an easy game to play
I liked S G C, not P S A
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Mm mm mm mm mm mm mm

Nicely done McCartney!

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Pythonfactory

I'll throw in my two cents just in case SGC actually reads this.

The new, borderless flip looks like something I would print at home (i.e., cheap and unprofessional). I like how the original green border eases the stark contrast between the white label and black background. The bajillion SGC's on the new label aren't pretty either. .

Have you seen the original flip? You couldn't print that at home?

From what I understand the multiple SGC in the background isn't printed. It is a water mark (based on what Leon stated originally before posting the new flip). Since we couldn't see it in the scan it looks like they showed us what it essentially would look like when you can see it. I don't know what technology you have at home but the fact that you can print security water marks at home, but were unable to do a green border on a white box seems strange to me.

[chernieto]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Have you seen the original flip? You couldn't print that at home?

From what I understand the multiple SGC in the background isn't printed. It is a water mark (based on what Leon stated originally before posting the new flip). Since we couldn't see it in the scan it looks like they showed us what it essentially would look like when you can see it. I don't know what technology you have at home but the fact that you can print security water marks at home, but were unable to do a green border on a white box seems strange to me.

What seems stranger to me was Sean's response that having the continuity of a green border, maintaining brand recognition and loyalty, would be "difficult and cluttered". I would think with all the talent and technology advance in the world in 2014 these issues could be resolved

[Jewish-collector]

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Ha Ha