assault weapon ban again

[jhs5120]

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[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I'm not putting words in your mouth. If you're connecting a government conspiracy to arm police officers with the "rash of unarmed civilians being killed" - then that is mass murder. You are telling me that the federal government is purposefully arming police officers to murder civilians.

What's the motive? Obviously someone has a reason to kill us all off..

Also, you say "the federal government" as if it is one entity. Is this coming all the way from the top? Is Obama trying to arm the police to kill us all? And if so, does that mean we're in the clear in 2 more years? Or if [insert generic Democrat] is elected we have 4 more years to live in fear. No sarcasm - I'm genuinely curious now.

On a side note, I don't think the Federal Government plays much of a role in local police budgetary spending.

You keep saying things like "kill us all off" and "kill us all" like I said that. Still putting words in my mouth. Now you bring Obama into it........geez, that was predictable.

Before you hit me with your barrage of sarcastic questions- try answering one of mine- why doesn't "Homeland Security" guard our borders?

Sincerely, Clayton

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

You keep saying things like "kill us all off" and "kill us all" like I said that. Still putting words in my mouth. Now you bring Obama into it........geez, that was predictable.



Before you hit me with your barrage of sarcastic questions- try answering one of mine- why doesn't "Homeland Security" guard our borders?



Sincerely, Clayton

Clayton,

Homeland Security does guard the border. Customs and Border Patrol falls under that agency.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Nevermind. Mis-read the post.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

Clayton,

Homeland Security does guard the border. Customs and Border Patrol falls under that agency.

I think when Clayton asks, "why doesn't "Homeland Security" guard our borders?" he means why aren't they doing their job. In other words, why are their so many illegal border crossings?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I think when Clayton asks, "why doesn't "Homeland Security" guard our borders?" he means why aren't they doing their job. In other words, why are their so many illegal border crossings?

There have been illegal crossings for years. I know that the number of prosecutions and people being caught has increased over the years. However I am unsure if this is because more people are crossing or if law enforcement is just catching a higher percentage.

[nolemmings]

Some would say they're doing their job just fine. "CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years":

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politi...k-immigration/

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Some would say they're doing their job just fine. "CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years":

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politi...k-immigration/

Tell me, how do they estimate fewer border crossings? Do they have a meter or turnstile that measures incoming illegal immigrants? Seriouly though, they only compare the number of apprehensions from previous years (which is definitely lower - no argument there) and assume that equates to fewer crossings. There is truly no way to measure illegal border crossings, they can only measure apprehensions.

Besides, that article was written last year with data up to 2011. Sure there were few border crossings in 2011, there were fewer jobs to cross over for. In fact, many illegal immigrants were going back home at that time because they couldn't find work over here.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Some would say they're doing their job just fine. "CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years":

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politi...k-immigration/

But, of the ones we do catch, we plan on releasing 500 of them a week into the US...

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...r-Week-Into-US

As was Clayton's original point, the Border Patrol is a freaking joke! But, hey, that's an extra 500 votes a week, right?

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I think when Clayton asks, "why doesn't "Homeland Security" guard our borders?" he means why aren't they doing their job. In other words, why are their so many illegal border crossings?

Exactly. If the reason DHS was created was "truly" about "terrorists" one would think the first thing they would do is saturate ALL borders of the United States with themselves. But, last night I watched a show about them catching low level drug smugglers at JFK airport How many agencies do we need nowadays? I thought our local police, sheriffs, and FBI were doing a good job.

Since DHS isn't truly about protecting us from "terrorists", and aren't worried about illegal border crossings, what is the purpose in having a DHS? We already had agencies doing the same jobs that they are doing now. Here's an interesting article:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...art-terrorists

Sincerely, Clayton

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Exactly. If the reason DHS was created was "truly" about "terrorists" one would think the first thing they would do is saturate ALL borders of the United States with themselves. But, last night I watched a show about them catching low level drug smugglers at JFK airport How many agencies do we need nowadays? I thought our local police, sheriffs, and FBI were doing a good job.



Since DHS isn't truly about protecting us from "terrorists", and aren't worried about illegal border crossings, what is the purpose in having a DHS? We already had agencies doing the same jobs that they are doing now. Here's an interesting article:



http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...art-terrorists



Sincerely, Clayton

DHS was created as a way to reorganize those agencies and provide a more functional framework for national security. Keep in mind that DHS is not focused solely on terrorism.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

DHS was created as a way to reorganize those agencies and provide a more functional framework for national security. Keep in mind that DHS is not focused solely on terrorism.

I understand that. But, going back to the main event that brought us all of this wonderful stuff (9/11/2001), the concept was "supposedly" specifically to better focus on catching terrorists. Now, it was clear to me quite a long time ago that something about this was bogus because there was no saturation at the borders (presumably where foreign terrorists were most likely to enter the country). So, now, the mission has changed-and at the same time they aren't doing anything about our borders, they are coming up with all kinds accusations of normal Americans as "domestic terrorists"- to me, there is something wrong with this picture. Apparently, some take offense to what I'm saying-that's ok, I respect everyone's opinion.

Sincerely, Clayton

[jhs5120]

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[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Those incompetent jerks.

C'mon Jason, just get it out of your system and call me a "racist" already!

Sincerely, Clayton