Fake M101 Wagner

[GasHouseGang]

In case someone wants to see the offered card on ebay vs a graded example:

[CW]

Thanks for the heads up, Dan.

[BruceinGa]

Thanks GasHouseGang for the comparison!

[danmckee]

Stone FAKE

I hope ebay enjoys the purchase, return shipping and paypal claim!

SCREW them

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Stone FAKE

I hope ebay enjoys the purchase, return shipping and paypal claim!

SCREW them

As was said, Ebay probably thought you were costing them too much money in bird-dogging bad stuff and getting it pulled. I don't think they care too much about fraud as long as they get their money....

[pbspelly]

I'm curious, if some scammer went to all the trouble to copy a real one and make it look aged and authentic in every other way, why wouldn't they make it without the space between the photo and the frame?

also, did you see that the seller offered a full refund if the buyer submitted it to PSA and it was held to be inauthentic?

Do you think the ebay seller was fooled himself?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I'm curious, if some scammer went to all the trouble to copy a real one and make it look aged and authentic in every other way, why wouldn't they make it without the space between the photo and the frame?

also, did you see that the seller offered a full refund if the buyer submitted it to PSA and it was held to be inauthentic?

Do you think the ebay seller was fooled himself?

These things have been sold as reprints for the last 30 yrs. Go to the Frisch website and have at it. Five minutes with the right pot of coffee and you have the aging. If it is a good seller then he is just fooled. There is no chance it's real. Edited to add the seller took it down. Probably a good seller with a bad card..

[pencil1974]

I talked to the seller about it and he said it was from an older collector and he actually felt bad as the guy had consigned a lot of cards with him and he had no problem taking it down after being contacted by a few people about it's authenticity. Seemed like a nice enough guy. So I think you are spot Leon, good seller, bad card.