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Old 03-06-2014, 09:54 PM
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Mike, the Ruth photo is interesting, but there is a world of difference between that one, and the one of Greenberg that you linked to.
Facial features and the lack there of?
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:59 PM
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The background with the clouds is cool, but yeah - nothing very interesting about the Babe himself, and there seems to be a stain directly over his face.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:03 PM
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Facial features and the lack there of?
Considering Ruth's mug that may not be such a bad thing. Just kidding...I understand what you are saying completely. I just really find the image aesthetically pleasing. I'm sure there are a number of Ruth collectors that are pleased to know you aren't interested in this one.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:33 PM
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Considering Ruth's mug that may not be such a bad thing. Just kidding...I understand what you are saying completely. I just really find the image aesthetically pleasing. I'm sure there are a number of Ruth collectors that are pleased to know you aren't interested in this one.
If you like it you should give her a run. For sure.. to each their own man. You never know, you might just win it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:56 PM
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That Ruth is pretty darn gorgeous. I know Corbis has the uncropped image on their site, and every time I pass it on my searches, I want to paint it.

But I still dream about that Greenberg negative. Yes, I said it.

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Old 03-07-2014, 06:46 AM
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That Ruth is pretty darn gorgeous. I know Corbis has the uncropped image on their site, and every time I pass it on my searches, I want to paint it.

But I still dream about that Greenberg negative. Yes, I said it.

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That image on Cornis is nice. The face on the original negative is crystal clear. Appears to be either damaged or dicked with sometime in the process on the said photo. Illy eyes go directly to it rather than the good parts of photo. If it was like the one on Corbis I would prob give it a mini run. the main problem I have is the description. It could potentially be very verv very misleading to newbies in the photo world. It is just simply not THE or one of the best Ruth photos on the planet. Not even remotely close. I am just tired of the auction houses making statements like this. I guess it has always been this way but has become just so extreme.
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That image on Cornis is nice. The face on the original negative is crystal clear. Appears to be either damaged or dicked with sometime in the process on the said photo. Illy eyes go directly to it rather than the good parts of photo. If it was like the one on Corbis I would prob give it a mini run. the main problem I have is the description. It could potentially be very verv very misleading to newbies in the photo world. It is just simply not THE or one of the best Ruth photos on the planet. Not even remotely close. I am just tired of the auction houses making statements like this. I guess it has always been this way but has become just so extreme.
UGH! This is the mistake people often make, they think the longer they have done it their opinion matters more. I may be new to buying photos, but I am not new to seeing them. You don't need to tell me if it is a good image or not, and the description given by RMY doesn't come across as definitive (non-like your statement), it comes across as opinionated which is fine by me.

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Of the thousands of times Babe Ruth was photographed during his career, this is our All-Time Favorite! Standing on the edge of the dugout and choosing his weapon, the photographer has chosen an artistic angle below to project Ruth's Stature in the game against an almost surreal background of clouds and bleachers! While the background is intentionally blurred, the figure of Ruth is crystal clear. The use of tones and shading are the work on an unidentified master of his craft capturing Ruth before his FIRST GAME with the Boston Braves. Condition is beautiful and this is truly one of the best (if not THE best) Ruth image on the planet!
Since they say at the beginning that is their all time favorite I take the last statement as an extension of their opinion based on what they find aesthetically pleasing. I, too, find the image to be nice. I do not like portrait images, I like baseball images. This one I find a lot more appealing then any portrait photo of Ruth, and honestly there are tons of images of his swing so it is nice to see this image (and the sliding ones that recently came up) come up for sale.

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Old 03-07-2014, 07:41 AM
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UGH! This is the mistake people often make, they think the longer they have done it their opinion matters more. I may be new to buying photos, but I am not new to seeing them. You don't need to tell me if it is a good image or not, and the description given by RMY doesn't come across as definitive (non-like your statement), it comes across as opinionated which is fine by me.

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Since they say at the beginning that is their all time favorite I take the last statement as an extension of their opinion based on what they find aesthetically pleasing. I, too, find the image to be nice. I do not like portrait images, I like baseball images. This one I find a lot more appealing then any portrait photo of Ruth, and honestly there are tons of images of his swing so it is nice to see this image (and the sliding ones that recently came up) come up for sale.

UHG... I will address this in more detail tomorrow as I am traveling. I have no doubt you are one to learn the hard way. Nothing wrong with that.. I am too. The last statement is not good. Also, nobody on the planet(other than a seller/owner) would make the the statements in that description. It is not about doing this for a long time. It is about common sense. Period and definitively bn2z. It is misleading at the very very best. Also, I am not telling you anything. I do not even know who you are in fact. My point is simply let the photos speak for themselves; without crazy outlandish claims. Ironically, I am saying what you are saying. The difference here is..i am not trying to sell a photo. My definitive statement is simply that this is not one of the best or THE best Ruth photos on the planet. I think most people would agree if they were being honest whether they have collected a long time or not at all. Do you think this is THE or one of the best Ruth photos on the planet/that exists?
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:20 AM
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UGH! This is the mistake people often make, they think the longer they have done it their opinion matters more. I may be new to buying photos, but I am not new to seeing them. You don't need to tell me if it is a good image or not, and the description given by RMY doesn't come across as definitive (non-like your statement), it comes across as opinionated which is fine by me.
Andy, I think this is an unfair statement. I am certain Ben doesn't feel his opinion matters more than yours or anyone else's - he asks me for mine all the time, and we disagree a lot. But I do think that because he has put a lot of years into this hobby, that he does feel a responsibility to share his thoughts with those who are newer to it. In this case, it isn't about the aesthetic value of the piece - it's about the value of the piece as a collectible. Ben is not trying to sell anything, so comparing his opinion to Rhys' is apples and oranges.

I have always thought that the overblown descriptions of items in ALL auctions is ridiculous and unnecessary, but everyone does it. Perhaps Rhys enjoys writing these descriptions and doesn't see any harm in it. I wrote some photo descriptions for an auction house once, and it was kind of creative and fun.

Bottom line is that if you can't make your own judgements based on the item alone, and your knowledge of what pieces are worth as collectibles (based on your experience and research), then you should keep your money in your pocket.
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I always was that kid in the outfield staring at the clouds, so I guess that much hasn't changed. Now if Ruth would just get his big melon out of the way, I could REALLY enjoy this photo
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