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Old 02-21-2014, 09:31 AM
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You are correct, Peter Nash stole these items from me and defrauded Al Angelo by giving him stolen memorabilia as collateral. To make it clear Mr. Angelo was never paid back the money he lent to Peter Nash. (It’s interesting to note that the collateral item, “C1903 Original Painted Glass Portrait of Nuf Ced McGreevy” was already pledged as collateral by Nash for money he borrowed from Rob Lifson owner of Robert Edward Auctions.) Mr. Angelo has not been forthcoming and has stonewalled me in giving me information on the stolen items, when in fact he has a signed document saying he has the items. If you are wondering who Al Angelo is, Peter Nash told me that Mr. Angelo is a very wealth person, manages money for Gabelli funds and has the largest baseball hall of fame autograph collection in the world. If Mr. Angelo wants to play hard ball so be it, I’ll let the police recover the stolen items. My question is why is Mr. Angelo covering for Peter Nash? See below "Promissory Note" signed by Peter Nash and letter from Al Angelo's attorney sending Peter Nash a letter of none payment.

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Peter Nash below is a couple of pages of your deposition when you were asked about the 1912 World Series Red Sox stickpin. Mr. Nash you clearly testified under oath that Mr. Angelo has the 1912 stickpin. Schedule A of the pledge agreement that Mr. Angelo signed clearly states that the “1912 Red Sox World Series Player Diamond Stickpin” is in the possession of Alfred Angelo. So therefore I would advise you to contact Mr. Angelo to tell me where the 1912 gold diamond stickpin is. Just so you know how serious I am please see the scanned copy of Detective Robert Saul’s business card which he gave me when I sat down with him and explained to him the situation.

I realize that you may be embarrassed to call Al Angelo. I know that Mark Jordan from Heritage Auctions told me that Mr. Angelo is not happy with you, but your thick skinned, so you can handle it. Mr. Angelo’s new attorney Robert Boyar told how you went to Mr. Angelo’s townhouse in Madison, NJ knocking on the door begging and crying to lend you money to pay back the unauthorized money you borrowed from the catholic school. So without doubt Mr. Nash you are thick skinned enough to call Mr. Angelo and tell him that the 1912 gold diamond stickpin was stolen and it needs to be returned to the Fraser’s.

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Old 02-21-2014, 09:49 AM
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Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:03 AM
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I wonder if the detective also has Courtesy Cards and what it means if you get one of them
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:41 AM
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Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
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My guess is Robert doesn't think Angelo still has the item?
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:37 AM
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This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:59 AM
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OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:05 PM
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OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?
Agreed. It should probably be moved to the Memorabilia section.
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OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:10 PM
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This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.
Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:24 PM
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Dumb question, but does the Peter Nash post on this board? Im assuming the Prime Minister does not.
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Old 02-21-2014, 01:41 PM
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.



If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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Old 02-21-2014, 03:36 PM
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John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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I think that fraud like this that has been perpetrated on this level against anyone is PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:48 PM
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John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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Alex, fair enough. I will say that I find your reasons a bit hard to follow. Just the sentence above....you have no knowledge of the people or the circumstances yet you draw the conclusion its harassment and not appropriate?

Second having a thread all to ones self for personal reasons is pretty much this entire site. How many threads are about such things as.....

I bought this so is it real?
Can somebody put me in touch with someone else?
Please look at my progress on this set thus far....
Has anyone bought from this seller? I want to buy from him....
Please guess my grades, I think I was robbed.
Does my card looked trimmed?

There are plenty of threads that are started for self serving reasons I don't see this as any different. Perhaps less innocent but at the same time more impactful to many as this is about fraud which effects us all vs. the PSA 3 someone got vs the EX they were expecting so rally to my aid thread.

Just my two cents and the great part about a single thread is I can always ignore it. Now if Robert starts posting in every thread the same stuff no matter the topic I would agree.

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Read back a couple pages, and realized there was no need for my post regarding some people questioning the placement this thread. IMO, I think it's perfectly relevant to our hobby, and can serve a positive purpose. Go team.
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them.
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I like Robert, Dan and John. All are interesting, intelligent and opinionated (proactive defense)

Robert's the only one who is really seriously affected adversely by any of this - it's just frustrating to not hear any sort of meaningful plan from him, since after all, he is posting all of this stuff on our vintage baseball card discussion forum, not on his own 'Peter Nash is an A-Hole' Forum. Being a member only of the former, and being in that venue at this exact moment, I feel justified in stating that opinion. Hope it's okay.
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Hahaha .... oh wait you were being serious?
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
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I have been wondering the same thing..
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:58 PM
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That has already been tried and done, to no avail, see below, warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Also please read the 3 page letter Robert Edward Auctions attorney wrote a few days before the Judge signed the warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. You will see that Mr. Nash did not cooperate with the Court's Orders so the Judge issued a warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Still to this day Nash has not cooperated in turning over his assets.

I need to spend my legal fees wisely. I'm going after wage garnishment and any assets the Nash's can't hide such as the website, Hauls of Shame. As for Mr. Angelo he's a licensed CPA, he can't hide, with deep pockets and if he continues to refuse to turn over information on the stolen memorabilia my wife and I will file a complaint with the Westwood police.

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