Peter Nash where are the items you stole from me!

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It appears to me Robert has a judgment against Nash and an order requiring him (Nash) to return the items, but Nash seems to have pledged the items to Angelo as collateral for a loan, so Angelo now has the items or may himself have done something else with them? It's a tangled web.

You are correct, Peter Nash stole these items from me and defrauded Al Angelo by giving him stolen memorabilia as collateral. To make it clear Mr. Angelo was never paid back the money he lent to Peter Nash. (It’s interesting to note that the collateral item, “C1903 Original Painted Glass Portrait of Nuf Ced McGreevy” was already pledged as collateral by Nash for money he borrowed from Rob Lifson owner of Robert Edward Auctions.) Mr. Angelo has not been forthcoming and has stonewalled me in giving me information on the stolen items, when in fact he has a signed document saying he has the items. If you are wondering who Al Angelo is, Peter Nash told me that Mr. Angelo is a very wealth person, manages money for Gabelli funds and has the largest baseball hall of fame autograph collection in the world. If Mr. Angelo wants to play hard ball so be it, I’ll let the police recover the stolen items. My question is why is Mr. Angelo covering for Peter Nash? See below "Promissory Note" signed by Peter Nash and letter from Al Angelo's attorney sending Peter Nash a letter of none payment.

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[Leon]

How does Peter Nash keep track of all of the lawsuits he is in? I wonder if he has his own Dewey Decimal system or something? Every time I see another, yet before unseen lawsuit or court order, I think of our few members that support him. Maybe those supporting him will get entangled too?

What's the old saying, "you are who you associate with."

All of those who would want to be like Peter Nash please take one step forward. (note everyone in attendance takes one step back)

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Just a guess, but maybe Angelo as a creditor of Nash wishes to look out for his own interest before helping out another creditor. I don't know. In any event, it seems like a matter a court eventually will need to sort out.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In any event, it seems like a matter a court eventually will need to sort out.

and meanwhile?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Runscott

and meanwhile?

I guess Robert will keep posting bits and pieces of the story and post more exhibits from his files?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I guess Robert will keep posting bits and pieces of the story and post more exhibits from his files?

I completely understand Roberts hate, just wish he would also post about something else also. 47 posts and every one about this same subject.

I do my fair share of complaining about counterfeit/altered cards and Tricky Ricks shady business practices but I also post pics of my cards and try to add to this forum in other ways. Ok I am done complaining for now.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I completely understand Roberts hate, just wish he would also post about something else also. 47 posts and every one about this same subject.

I do my fair share of complaining about counterfeit/altered cards and Tricky Ricks shady business practices but I also post pics of my cards and try to add to this forum in other ways. Ok I am done complaining for now.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Leon

How does Peter Nash keep track of all of the lawsuits he is in?

There's an app for that.

[atx840]

[wonkaticket]

Alex, all good. I agree at first glance the whole thing is a mess...mostly because it really is just that a total mess...but that's Peter Nash for you.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by atx840

Classic!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Classic!

+1

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by atx840

Now she's impressed.

[slipk1068]

Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:

If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:



If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.

What state?


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[Sunny]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:

If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.

News flash, please see what I just posted on the thread "John Rogers Home and Business Searched by the FBI".

Best regards,

Robert Fraser

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by atx840

Now that's funny! Well played, Chris.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by atx840

Hey Peter Nash, I guess Lois Lerner is going to learn the same fate as you in pleading the fifth, you’ll understand that if you were paying attention to the news. Pete, you should have told Mr. Lifson the truth about all of your assets after you lost the lawsuit. I’ve seen the Court Ordered Information Subpoena that was filed under oath and you stated that you have only $500 cash to your name. Meanwhile money is flowing in from John Rogers and what about all that memorabilia that you had in a storage unit next to Cooperstown Dream Park. You showed me that storage unit and it was packed tight with memorabilia. If you had told Mr. Lifson the truth you would not be facing a $250,000 legal bill. I noticed online that you’re going to court on the 28th of this month, good luck, you’re facing the same Judge that found you guilty of civil fraud. My advice is before you go to court make a deal, give all of your memorabilia/assets to Mr. lifson and ask him to shave something off on the legal bill. Remember the 10% interest will apply to the legal fees the Judge awards Mr. Lifson. If your assets are enough to pay back Mr. Lifson then the remaining amount will go to pay down my Judgment against you. I don’t know if you have any memorabilia/assets left, it’s hard to believe you don’t, and if you do it’s time to give it up.

I remember back sometime around 1999 when you gave me a bunch of memorabilia to hide from your creditors specifically Connie Dinallo that had a Judgment against you for $500,000 and I had this memorabilia it in my closet for years. I remember one of the boxes was filled with old painted baseball. Once in a while you would call me and tell me I’m coming over to get some of the memorabilia because you needed to sell it. One time you even had me bring over a signed team baseball to some guy Mr. Mint in Montvale, NJ and you gave me $100 for selling it to him. You told me you would do it yourself but you didn’t like him. I have to assume you’re doing the same thing now and hiding memorabilia. If you are it’s time to give it up.

Pete, under the threat of Contempt of Court you finally turned over your bank records which must have been embarrassing. I’ve seen some of these bank records and the large wire transfers of money John Rogers sent you. I noticed that you were still bouncing checks, I still have the 7 checks that you bounced on my wife and me. I guess I’ll sell those checks on eBay someday maybe some of your rapper fans may like to buy your signature.

Pete, one of your biggest mistakes was buying the first baseball pitched at the 1912 Grand Opening of Fenway Park that was auction off by Sotheby’s/SCP back in June of 2005. You were not financially in the position of bidding on that baseball so you had David Hunt bid and lend you the money on the 1912 first pitched baseball at Fenway Park. Why did Mr. Hunt lend this money to you? Did you give Hunt Auctions some of you John Dooley Collection as collateral? I remember you asking me for the money to pay David Hunt $132,000 plus $5,000 fee for purchasing it for you. I noticed that Hunt Auctions sold 5 John Dooley letters on July 13, 2010 that were written to him by Barney Dreyfuss, Hugh Jennings, Kenesaw Landis, and 2 letters from Charles Comiskey that sold for a total of $10,053. Why back in 2005 did you put yourself in such debt? You borrow $8,000 in 2005 from my wife, Lisa to buy an antique bar so you could build McGreevy’s bar/museum and you have never paid her back. Part of our lawsuit against you was recovering that money with interest. Maybe I should attach the antique bar to the Judgment and take it from McGreevy’s Bar in Boston? I wonder what your partners in Boston would think of that, although I heard there not too happy with you.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by Sunny

You are correct, Peter Nash stole these items from me and defrauded Al Angelo by giving him stolen memorabilia as collateral. To make it clear Mr. Angelo was never paid back the money he lent to Peter Nash. (It’s interesting to note that the collateral item, “C1903 Original Painted Glass Portrait of Nuf Ced McGreevy” was already pledged as collateral by Nash for money he borrowed from Rob Lifson owner of Robert Edward Auctions.) Mr. Angelo has not been forthcoming and has stonewalled me in giving me information on the stolen items, when in fact he has a signed document saying he has the items. If you are wondering who Al Angelo is, Peter Nash told me that Mr. Angelo is a very wealth person, manages money for Gabelli funds and has the largest baseball hall of fame autograph collection in the world. If Mr. Angelo wants to play hard ball so be it, I’ll let the police recover the stolen items. My question is why is Mr. Angelo covering for Peter Nash? See below "Promissory Note" signed by Peter Nash and letter from Al Angelo's attorney sending Peter Nash a letter of none payment.

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Peter Nash below is a couple of pages of your deposition when you were asked about the 1912 World Series Red Sox stickpin. Mr. Nash you clearly testified under oath that Mr. Angelo has the 1912 stickpin. Schedule A of the pledge agreement that Mr. Angelo signed clearly states that the “1912 Red Sox World Series Player Diamond Stickpin” is in the possession of Alfred Angelo. So therefore I would advise you to contact Mr. Angelo to tell me where the 1912 gold diamond stickpin is. Just so you know how serious I am please see the scanned copy of Detective Robert Saul’s business card which he gave me when I sat down with him and explained to him the situation.

I realize that you may be embarrassed to call Al Angelo. I know that Mark Jordan from Heritage Auctions told me that Mr. Angelo is not happy with you, but your thick skinned, so you can handle it. Mr. Angelo’s new attorney Robert Boyar told how you went to Mr. Angelo’s townhouse in Madison, NJ knocking on the door begging and crying to lend you money to pay back the unauthorized money you borrowed from the catholic school. So without doubt Mr. Nash you are thick skinned enough to call Mr. Angelo and tell him that the 1912 gold diamond stickpin was stolen and it needs to be returned to the Fraser’s.

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[E93]

Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

[ALR-bishop]

I wonder if the detective also has Courtesy Cards and what it means if you get one of them

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by E93

Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

My guess is Robert doesn't think Angelo still has the item?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.

[timzcardz]

OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by timzcardz

OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?

Agreed. It should probably be moved to the Memorabilia section.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Originally Posted by timzcardz

OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?

ssshhhhhhhhhhhh

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.

Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

[Cardboard Junkie]

This:

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.



If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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[tschock]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

plus 1

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by E93

Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

+1

I have been wondering the same thing..

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by E93

Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

That has already been tried and done, to no avail, see below, warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Also please read the 3 page letter Robert Edward Auctions attorney wrote a few days before the Judge signed the warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. You will see that Mr. Nash did not cooperate with the Court's Orders so the Judge issued a warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Still to this day Nash has not cooperated in turning over his assets.

I need to spend my legal fees wisely. I'm going after wage garnishment and any assets the Nash's can't hide such as the website, Hauls of Shame. As for Mr. Angelo he's a licensed CPA, he can't hide, with deep pockets and if he continues to refuse to turn over information on the stolen memorabilia my wife and I will file a complaint with the Westwood police.

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