Oldest commercially produced baseball card?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

So we are looking at late 1860s to early 1870s for the first cards?

[Baseball Rarities]

The 1869 Cincinnati CDV and trade cards has always been one of my favorite "cards" in the hobby. I have images of a few ads from contemporary magazines that show the following addresses for Peck & Snyder:

1865-1868: 105 Nassau St.
1869: 22 Ann St.
1870 on: 126 Nassau St.

Here are my thoughts:

CDV's that have either Peck and Snyder (22 Ann St.) or Chadwick's Base Ball Book of Reference ads on the back come from the season of 1869.

The Peck and Snyder trade cards with the ice skating on back (22 Ann St.) come from winter of 1869.

The Peck and Snyder trade cards with all other advertising and 126 Nassau St. on the back come from 1870-71.

CDV's pre-dated trade cards and were obviously much easier and cheaper to produce. I think that the success of the initial run of CDV's with advertising on the backs in 1869 led to the production of the trade cards in 1870 and 1871. No doubt additional generic CDV's were printed after 1869 as well.

[barrysloate]

Hi Kevin- the Cincinnati Red Stockings disbanded after the 1870 season. Do you think P & S was still issuing cards of them at that time?

[Baseball Rarities]

Hi Barry - There was an ad in a 1871 Clipper magazine that offered not only the 1869 Red Stockings Peck and Snyder trade card, but the 1868 Atlantics as well. I can post later on this evening or tomorrow it if anyone is interested.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Hi Barry - There was an ad in a 1871 Clipper magazine that offered not only the 1869 Red Stockings Peck and Snyder trade card, but the 1868 Atlantics as well. I can post later on this evening or tomorrow it if anyone is interested.

I am interested in learning more about this. Thanks!

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Hi Barry - There was an ad in a 1871 Clipper magazine that offered not only the 1869 Red Stockings Peck and Snyder trade card, but the 1868 Atlantics as well. I can post later on this evening or tomorrow it if anyone is interested.

Same here Kevin. I've never heard of that ad, and it sounds like it is really important information. Please post it when you can.

[Baseball Rarities]

OK will do. I stole it from somebody else on the interweb.

[Baseball Rarities]

First is the 1869 NY Clipper Ad advertising the CDV coupled with the St. Ann address and the second is an 1871 NY Clipper Ad with three of the different trade cards (1868 Atlantics, 1869 Red Stockings and 1870 Mutuals) along with the ultra rare 1871 team composite CDV's at the 126 Nassau St. address.