SGC = Who cares about your cards!

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I imagine they will step up to the plate on this one. Please let us know how it is handled.

[4815162342]

If this were PSA and not SGC, there would already be 100 replies and cries for the heads of Joe O. and David H.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

If this were PSA and not SGC, there would already be 100 replies and cries for the heads of Joe O. and David H.

Exactly this.....Well said Daryl.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

If this were PSA and not SGC, there would already be 100 replies and cries for the heads of Joe O. and David H.

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Exactly this.....Well said Daryl.

You'e right, Kevin, I'll give you that. Daryl absolutley nailed it.

But what either of you fail to see or mention is that there are no SGC apologists. If SGC screws up, everyone can admit it (whether they post it or not). I'll admit it, SGC screwed this one up big time. Here's the difference though. When SGC screws up, even SGC loyalists can admit it. When PSA screws up, all the apologists come out of the woodwork to defend them.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

If this were PSA and not SGC, there would already be 100 replies and cries for the heads of Joe O. and David H.

I would agree with this.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I would agree with this.

You guys remind me of the racism debate. Generally speaking I feel racism is perpetuated by the very people denouncing it.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Leon

You guys remind me of the racism debate. Generally speaking I feel racism is perpetuated by the very people denouncing it.

That sounds racist

[Leon]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

That sounds racist

No, just stating how I often feel. The people talking the most about things often times perpetuate what they are trying to eradicate. And I think as a society we are too politically correct, but this might be for another thread.

SGC made a mistake on those holders. They should fix them and compensate if damage was done to the cards because of their holders. I wouldn't be happy to have to deal with it but if you get cards graded it can happen. It's happened to me. I usually just tap them back into place.....but if it were bad I guess I might get it re-holdered....

[pencil1974]

I guess I could if it were just one strip card but its an uncut Ruth panel. Plus I think it is completely stuck into the side of the holder.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Leon

No, just stating how I often feel. The people talking the most about things often times perpetuate what they are trying to eradicate. And I think as a society we are too politically correct, but this might be for another thread.

I was kidding.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

If this were PSA and not SGC, there would already be 100 replies and cries for the heads of Joe O. and David H.

If someone is crying for your head, you might want to look in a mirror and see what might be wrong with it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Runscott

If someone is crying for your head, you might want to look in a mirror and see what might be wrong with it.

He does, but it's the mirror from Snow White.

[CW]

Yes, I've experienced this also with two different T3 Turkey Red cabinet cards.

I've discussed this with other collectors online and some believe that the cause is not the gasket, but imperfections or warping of the two clear plastic halves (front and back) that make up the slab. I've contacted SGC and they've offered to reholder for free, but who's to say it won't happen again with the same style holder/gasket?

Either way, this should NOT be happening to our cards. Yes, one part of grading is the actual grade and the monetary value that follows, but a BIG part of getting our items encapsulated is protection. When the very steps we take to protect our cards end up actually damaging them, and we're paying for such a service, well... that's completely unacceptable!

I actually have a T3 Turkey Red that I'm almost afraid to look at for fear of knocking it loose from the gasket again. In addition, the only way I'll feel safe having it reholdered is by hand-delivering the card to either SGC or PSA at The National in Cleveland this year (and that's assuming SGC has a new holder in place). So yeah, sometimes the hobby isn't so enjoyable, and that's unfortunate.

[pencil1974]

Why not make the cheap cardboard that holds cards a bit thicker so this can't happen. I'm sure Hobby Lobby or Michaels has the cardboard. Just a thought.

[Blackie]

brad did ya call em yet?

[pencil1974]

I emailed Scott and he just got back to me, wasn't even about the new one that it was about the 6 I had mentioned before and showed a few.

He said send them back and they would take care of them and also grade a few cards for free but I have no new cards I care to grade as what I sent in were the cards I wanted graded. lol.

[Blackie]

Oh my ...........man I hope they make it right for ya brother. The also need to check those cards that slid and pay for any damage to those cards moving in the holder, if in fact they were damaged at all in them. Keep us posted Brad and best of luck on getting this resolved brother.

[pencil1974]

I will let you know for sure. I have to get a box and repackage and pay for shipping to them. So I'm going to be out a bit of money as all told its over a grand that I have send back and insure (again).

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by pencil1974

Why not make the cheap cardboard that holds cards a bit thicker so this can't happen. I'm sure Hobby Lobby or Michaels has the cardboard. Just a thought.

I actually think this is a great idea. Like a thinner black insert, 2 pieces with the cardboard sandwiched in between-would definitely prevent this from happening and also be gentler on the cards borders.

I do have one of these holders where the card will slip behind the black insert, and I try to avoid handling it (which is bunk) because it already took me about 20 minutes to "tap" it back into place.

Hope this gets worked out for you-

Sincerely, Clayton