New Old Judge discovery

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Wow--so much misinformation. First, these, if anything, are Gypsy Queens, NOT Old Judges. Old Judges came in Old Judge cigarette packs, Gypsy Queens came in Gypsy Queen cigarette packs. Second, the two new trimmed cards were not scanned next to an existing McDonald Gypsy Queen. The McDonald is an image of the card, not the actual card. My guess is that they are all the same size.
Third, the McDonald sold in Barry Sloate auction for about $80,000. The card was originally found by David Bryan on Ebay. The auction took place in the late-1990s I believe.
The only problem with the cards is that there is no identification of the manufacturer. The most likely scenario, as I note above, is that they are the same Gypsy Queen set as the McDonald. However, I guess they could be from another set, or they could be unissued printers scrap--who knows.
BTW, the McDonald image posted above is not the full image. Our book has the complete image.

Cool stuff guys. OJ or GQ...it is neat either way.

Z Wheat

[oldjudge]

Tom--the albums were the Cambridge Collection, sold by Goldin, not SCP. These cards are different, although Keith blended them together in his piece.

[autograf]

Ah.....thought that was a couple of other nice cards you found in the album!

So.....Olbermann engineered the two newly found ones into pages of the Cambridge Collection for viewing purposes?

[oldjudge]

No, the page he showed with the two trimmed cards was not from the Cambridge Collection. The other scrapbook pages were. I'm not sure why he showed the Cambridge Collection stuff at all.

[Al C.risafulli]

What a fantastic hobby, where there are so many scholars that study the hobby so hard, and yet there are still new discoveries all the time.

When I saw the piece, I immediately assumed that he was reporting on cards that were in the Cambridge Collection. Thanks for clearing that up, Jay.

Still, given the audience (which goes far beyond card collectors, most of who do not understand this stuff), it was a solid piece. And a great discovery.

-Al

[Exhibitman]

FWIW, the boxing cards shown in the screen cap all have had their ads hacked off, so I assume that the same fate befell the two cards in question. Here are the Godfrey and Wilson cards as they should look:

[oldjudge]

Adam--what you are saying is not correct. The serpentine Gypsy Queen banner on the McDonald is in fact different than the serpentine banners on the boxers. Look closely and you will see this.