Question on the E98 Background Color Variations

[E93]

In my experience none of the colors is particularly tougher than any other, though as Tim mentioned, if you are looking for a particular player in a particular color, some may prove to be more challenging.
JimB

[Tim Kindler]

Jason,
Nice pickup on that Clarke. Thanks for the compliment on my Master Set and I hope you and others can use it for a reference in the future. Some came really easy while other player/color combos were much more difficult for me. As you can see, the green Clarke in better condition has eluded me, but I hope to find it and many other e98s in the future as I upgrade my set. As for Clarke, in my experience, the red, orange, and blue are pretty easy to find, while the green will be more difficult. Anyway, enjoy the hunt, because that is what makes collecting e98s fun for me. I'm still hunting too, for upgrades!
Tim

[Leon]

and when you run out of players and colors you can start on your E98 Old Put run....(and here is a Clarke in blue )

[VoodooChild]

Sweet cards as usual Leon! I saw one of those on eBay too and was wondering what they were. Then I remembered a thread about them posted back when I first joined. Now that I'm learning about all these different types, I'll have to search for that thread and re-read it.

[ullmandds]

It took me 3-4 yrs to find all 4 colors of jennings...the blue was the 1st I acquired!

[pcoz]

Guys, I agree with everyone's thoughts so far, and take it from Tim, the E98 king! I need 13 more for my Master set, and I thought blue to be marginally scarcer than the others before the BSF, and for sure now after. But without a doubt in my opinion, blue has always been the most condition sensitive. The player/color combos are the key here, with so many only showing up through the years once or twice. I've seen a bunch of blue Matty's, but only 2 green & 2 orange's, 1 green Clarke, 1 blue Walsh, 2 blue Tenney's, 1 orange Bender, and I have the only blue Tinker I've ever seen for sale. Toughest HOF'ers imo are Walsh, Lajoie & Jennings, and commons are Coombs, Bridwell & Vaughn.

[Tim Kindler]

Guys,
Seeing beautiful E98s on the board never gets old. Leon's Old Puts are awesome and I still drool over that Clarke......maybe someday Leon

Pete U., I love seeing those Jennings again. That card is so underestimated in this set in my opinion. It's by far, the lowest populated Hall of Famer in the set, and there are really very few higher graded examples in existence, and you have some real beauties there my friend!

Pete C., great seeing some of your beauties again. Your Tinker in Blue is absolutely stunning. I've only ever seen 2 in my life- yours and mine and yours is stunning and mine is in dog-chew-toy candition. Everyone be aware that when Pete finishes his E98 MAster Set , it will be absoultely fantastic with most of his cards far exceding the conditions of mine! I can't wait. Pete and I have traded, bought, & sold back and forth helping each other on our Master Set journeys over the years working within our respective budgets, needs, and wants. As I mentioned in my Master Set set thread, I really appreciate the friends I've met through the board like Pete while collecting E98s. Can't wait to see your finished project my friend!

[caramelcard]

We've had many discussions about this over the years. Some collectors have found red to be the hardest, but everyone has a different experience. I've also collected the master set and green was a bit tougher for me. Even with a few of us accumulating a hundred and fifty to two hundred cards over the years, it's hard to do a study with a large enough sample size. Many of the same cards have been recycled into different collections.

I believe the the "Old Puts" (and the Black Swamp find) show that it's likely certain colors could be more difficult to find.

If only red (and a small smattering of blue) were included (given out) with that product, it's very likely that other colors were exclusive to one product. Or that, for example, red E98s were included with Old Put Cigars and 4 or 5 other products.

If it was a retailer who stamped the Old Put E98s, he probably chose the red background cards from a salesman. The Black Swamp find was mostly red, but it shows that whomever was selling those cards did have different colors with them.

If this is true that each color might be exclusive to a certain product, then the popularity of the product might determine how many survived. It seems likely that the same number of each were printed, but how many were actually purchased by retailers or shops and how many customers purchased them as a premium?

E98s might not be candy cards. There's really no proof, except for what appear to be orange stains on some of the cards. (By the way, I've seen more stains on green and orange cards) "Old Put" stamps seem to be something closer to proof that they're not candy cards, but again the cards were probably used to support different products. The Black Swamp find story mentioned that the family owned a meat market, not a candy store or cigar shop.


E98s are more common then E94s as we know. I would assume that E98 was a broader scheme that was fairly successful regionally and that E94 followed, but was on more of a local level.

E94s appear in my experience to show a much more unbalanced survival rate between the different colors.


Rob

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Tim Kindler

Jason,
Nice pickup on that Clarke. Thanks for the compliment on my Master Set and I hope you and others can use it for a reference in the future. Some came really easy while other player/color combos were much more difficult for me. As you can see, the green Clarke in better condition has eluded me, but I hope to find it and many other e98s in the future as I upgrade my set. As for Clarke, in my experience, the red, orange, and blue are pretty easy to find, while the green will be more difficult. Anyway, enjoy the hunt, because that is what makes collecting e98s fun for me. I'm still hunting too, for upgrades!
Tim

Tim, I hold an e98 Cobb red in a PSA 3 acquired before the BSF find. Would this card trade for more than the equivalent card discovered in the BSF? Thanks.

[gabrinus]

Brian, I know your post was from a few months ago but those black and whites are cool...Jerry

[brianp-beme]

Nice group Andy. I think E98 cards are fun to gather in an assortment of background colors...your near set has a nice kaleidoscope look. On the other hand, the one color look is also cool. Here are four Blue cards, with one identified as Brown.

Brian (Unlike the Cy/Irv card, this "Miner" is actually Mordecai)


edit: Just realized I posted these cards ten years ago previously on this thread. Go me!

[Casey2296]

Beautiful set Andy.

John, good question, you won't find a Red Cobb 3 from BSF. When I was putting together my Master I collected original circulation only because I wanted to experience putting together a pre BSF set.
It really is two different sets, all the BSF is high grade, original circulation is like collecting any other E set.
To me your Cobb is more valuable, but I value oc cards more than BSF, your particular card is more rare than a E98 Red Cobb in an 8 or 9. It's a weird dynamic caused by the find.
If you ever want to move your card let me know.

[gabrinus]

I figured it would be easier just to scan instead of listing their colors...I think these are all I have...one of those Vaughns is an Old Put...Jerry

[CobbSpikedMe]

Jerry,

Great set man. Would love a chance to talk about that blue Ford if you're interested in letting it go to replace my red one. I'd much rather have a blue one in my set. You really have some nice raw cards mixed in there.

Andy


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