Today’s Auction House Scene

[atx840]

Nice thread John. I've only consigned to B&L and LOTG and try to bid with AHs who run with integrity....unfortunately sometimes the card & want factor trump the conscience.

As a board if we consign to the short list of reputable AHs and provide quality items, bidders will notice, hammer prices will go up, leading to more consignments and auction by auction they will chip away the business from the fraudsters.

[drcy]

Just remember, you can't spend in Hell what you overcharged on shipping. Or at least the nachos you can purchase there are really bad-- over dry and salty and too many beans.

[familytoad]

Hell equals salty nachos...Wise words to live by David...very wise indeed.

[Runscott]

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[GregMitch34]

Leon, I wouldn't put down Snowden, he might leak all of the shill bids from the past three years at any moment.

[jcmtiger]

I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

joe

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

joe

Joe -- why don't you ask Josh if he's engaged in shill bidding in his auctions and get back to us? If he denies it why don't you ask him to sue me for libel?

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Joe -- why don't you ask Josh if he's engaged in shill bidding in his auctions and get back to us? If he denies it why don't you ask him to sue me for libel?

OK, I give. Who is Josh?

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

joe

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180508

Here you go Joe in case you missed it facts no bias....

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180508

Here you go Joe in case you missed it facts no bias....

No did not miss it, I have been following that thread also.
I will say the way things are going there will be no auction houses that we can trust, even the ones that are called honest right now by the NET54 Forum. Remember In past years Mastro and Lelands were trusted at one time.

Collectors are losing faith in EBAY and EBAY Auction sites faster than they did with the Auction Houses. So that will be the next to fall. Then we will be back to selling and trading by collectors which worked well in the past. I guess that won't be so bad.
Joe

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by familytoad

Hell equals salty nachos...Wise words to live by David...very wise indeed.

And beans. Lots of beans in hell sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Tom C

[bobbyw8469]

Does anyone still bid or deal with American Memorabilia?? Didn't they have a major problem with not paying consignors at all? It amazes me that someone could even get consignments at all after doing people like that!

[drcy]

I don't even know if AM is still around today, but after their troubles they didn't directly auction stuff on their sight. It was a bit like eBay in that major dealers posted and sold their stuff on the site and you bought from those dealers. Maybe that's for the better because by one point I heard AM had troubles paying what they owe their consignors.

[Jeffrompa]

I never thought about these Auction House problems and shilling very much until recently ( mostly because of the News and reading in here ) My family operated a Mail Postcard auction for over 30 years and I never suspected any kind of wrong doing but is always possible. The auctions were always blind auctions in which the sellers did not know what lots were theirs but it is possible they bid them up always from the description . Takes me back in time for sure .

[Ease]

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa

I never thought about these Auction House problems and shilling very much until recently ( mostly because of the News and reading in here ) My family operated a Mail Postcard auction for over 30 years and I never suspected any kind of wrong doing but is always possible. The auctions were always blind auctions in which the sellers did not know what lots were theirs but it is possible they bid them up always from the description . Takes me back in time for sure .

Wow 30 years in postcards, I bet you saw some cool ones over the years, baseball and otherwise! What are some of the most interesting interesting ones you've ever seen? Sorry OT a bit...

[Jeffrompa]

We owned and sold all of the best . We sold 1 million postcards in 1990 . Lots of Rose's , RPPC's , Wolverine Press , Deitsch ( most likely some one of a kind cards also ) everything really . Sad to say I was not into the hobby back then and the cards were not of interest to me . Thats a big regret now .

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa

We owned and sold all of the best . We sold 1 million postcards in 1990 . Lots of Rose's , RPPC's , Wolverine Press , Deitsch ( most likely some one of a kind cards also ) everything really . Sad to say I was not into the hobby back then and the cards were not of interest to me . Thats a big regret now .

Hey Jeff
Knowing a tiny bit about your Dad, and the work he did in the postcard arena, I can only imagine what went through ya'lls hands.

For those that might not know, Jeff's dad, Dr.James Lowe, almost invented postcard collecting some 50 yrs ago. He coined the now common postcard collecting term, deltiology. He wrote and co-authored many books on the subject and is a wonderful human being from the few times we spoke and what I have learned. If you look at about the 2nd or 3rd little section down in this link, under United States, you will see the books he wrote, along with his best friend and Baseball Card Collecting Pioneer, Walt Corson...

http://www.postcard.co.uk/clubww.php


And lastly, Jeff and his Dad auctioned (ebay) some N167s many years ago and I picked up one of the nicest of the group. That is how Jeff came to know of the board (I believe) and how I came into contact with his Dad. It is through his Dad that I was able to acquire a lot of Corson's collecting notes and checklists, which I sometimes display.....this was Corson's 1950 Book Of Checklists, by Charles Bray......

[barrysloate]

Great story Leon.