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Old 12-24-2013, 07:20 PM
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Leon, I wouldn't put down Snowden, he might leak all of the shill bids from the past three years at any moment.
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Old 12-24-2013, 09:40 PM
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I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

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Old 12-25-2013, 12:38 PM
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I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

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Joe -- why don't you ask Josh if he's engaged in shill bidding in his auctions and get back to us? If he denies it why don't you ask him to sue me for libel?
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Old 12-25-2013, 02:18 PM
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Joe -- why don't you ask Josh if he's engaged in shill bidding in his auctions and get back to us? If he denies it why don't you ask him to sue me for libel?
OK, I give. Who is Josh?
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:08 PM
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Until a significant amount of spenders are prepared to stop bidding AND consigning I wouldn't look for much to change. It's the deny yourself part that's tough and that they count on us not being able/willing to do.
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Old 12-25-2013, 05:29 PM
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OK, I give. Who is Josh?
Josh Evans is the Leland auction house founder.

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I really would like some real facts for each Auction House that is being blasted. Not personal bias, but facts. I have consigned to a couple of Auction houses and was happy with both. I know there are 1 or 2 posters who hate 1 or 2 auction houses. Please post the truths, not just your personal bias for the auction house. Please do not bring Mastro into the conversation although I have consigned to them in the past, maybe before their problems.

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http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=180508

Here you go Joe in case you missed it facts no bias....
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:19 PM
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Here you go Joe in case you missed it facts no bias....
No did not miss it, I have been following that thread also.
I will say the way things are going there will be no auction houses that we can trust, even the ones that are called honest right now by the NET54 Forum. Remember In past years Mastro and Lelands were trusted at one time.

Collectors are losing faith in EBAY and EBAY Auction sites faster than they did with the Auction Houses. So that will be the next to fall. Then we will be back to selling and trading by collectors which worked well in the past. I guess that won't be so bad.
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Positive transactions with Joe G, Jay Miller, CTANK80, BIGFISH, MGHPRO, k. DIXON, LEON, INSIDETHEWRAPPER, GOCUBSGO32, Steve Suckow, RAINIER2004, Ben Yourg, GNAZ01, yanksrnice09, cmiz5290, Kris Sweckard (Kris19),Angyal, Chuck Tapia,Belfast1933,bcbgcbrcb,fusorcruiser, tsp06, cobbcobb13
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No did not miss it, I have been following that thread also.
I will say the way things are going there will be no auction houses that we can trust, even the ones that are called honest right now by the NET54 Forum. Remember In past years Mastro and Lelands were trusted at one time.

Collectors are losing faith in EBAY and EBAY Auction sites faster than they did with the Auction Houses. So that will be the next to fall. Then we will be back to selling and trading by collectors which worked well in the past. I guess that won't be so bad.
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All of this sturm und drang would be worth it, at least for me, if it resulted in the revival of regional and local card shows. It' s a much more fun side of the hobby.
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All of this sturm und drang would be worth it, at least for me, if it resulted in the revival of regional and local card shows. It' s a much more fun side of the hobby.
Unless you live in flyover country like me.
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