Hall of Fame Ballot Announced

[HRBAKER]

Tom Glavine is the 4th winningest lefthander in MLB history behind Spahn, Carlton and Plank and ahead of Grove. He won 2 Cy Youngs, finished 2nd twice and third twice in an era dominated by Maddux and Randy Johnson. That's an awful lot of generous strike zones for a long time.

Sheesh!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Tom Glavine is the 4th winningest lefthander in MLB history behind Spahn, Carlton and Plank and ahead of Grove. He won 2 Cy Youngs, finished 2nd twice and third twice in an era dominated by Maddux and Randy Johnson. That's an awful lot of generous strike zones for a long time.

Sheesh!

Even with being a lefty myself I have never understood statements like "4th winningest lefthander in MLB history". To me it sounds like us lefties have a disability. He is #21 on the all time wins list and even though I never liked him that is very impressive for a pitcher.

[EvilKing00]

Id give a yes vote if I had one to Maddux, Frank Thomas, Biggio, Piazza, Bonds, Clemens, and McGwire.

all of whom were the top players of their day.

[HRBAKER]

Glavine is every bit as compelling a case for a pitcher as Biggio is for a position player. Where's Biggio's MVPs or his second or third place finishes? His is a case of sustained well-above averageness and stat accumulation. Not saying he is not deserving but saying Glavine is not a HOFer is nuts. Kudos to Biggio for playing three different positions as well.

edit to add: Biggio did have a 4th and 5th place finish in the MVP vote