Hall of Fame Ballot Announced

[EvilKing00]

I think the hof should induct the best players of their time. Weather they took speed, coke, stuffed their bats with cork, threw spit balls, used vasoline on a ball, scuffed the ball, sharpened their cleats, or used peds

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

I think the hof should induct the best players of their time. Weather they took speed, coke, stuffed their bats with cork, threw spit balls, used vasoline on a ball, scuffed the ball, sharpened their cleats, or used peds

I was talking to my wife last night about this. I don't like that my entire childhood watching baseball is becoming insignificant in the history of the game because the hall of fame has decided that PEDs are now all of a sudden punishable as if players hadn't been looking for an edge since the beginning of the game. I don't agree with PEDs, but if everyone in the game is doing it then it doesn't give you much of an advantage it just makes sure you aren't playing at a disadvantage.

[lsutigers1973]

Would be a baseball travesty if Maddux and Glavine don't go in together.

[bnorth]

I would like to see Maddux, Clemens, Bonds, Biggio, and McGriff. Make it this year. My guess is Maddux is the only one to get in this year.

I really do not think Glavine is a HOFer despite his numbers. He like all Braves pitchers for several years got that foot off the outside ball called a strike and with out that his numbers would be more average. Remember when the TBS guy got fired for showing the Braves expanded strike zone during the playoffs?

[Lgarza99]

I agree with no Glavine this year. I'd go with Maddux, Thomas, and Biggio this year. When Glavine goes in so should Mussina.

[HRBAKER]

No offense to MM but Tommy was a better pitcher.
That's what makes this fun, there is no right answer.

[BradH]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I really do not think Glavine is a HOFer despite his numbers. He like all Braves pitchers for several years got that foot off the outside ball called a strike and with out that his numbers would be more average. Remember when the TBS guy got fired for showing the Braves expanded strike zone during the playoffs?:eek:

You can debate all you want whether Glavine's 300+ wins and multiple Cy Young Awards mean much (seems foolish to me to argue against him, but to each his own), but this statement about people being fired simply isn't true. And it wasn't during the playoffs. It was in the middle of the season. But no one was fired and it was pretty blown out of proportion.

Anyway, my guess of who we'll see inducted in July (not saying these are my personal choices, but who I think the voters will choose):

Cox
La Russa
Maddux
Glavine
Thomas

Very close (maybe 65+ pct of the vote):
Piazza
Biggio
Morris

Also, guessing Torre and Steinbrenner get close in the December vote, but might have to wait three more years.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by BradH

You can debate all you want whether Glavine's 300+ wins and multiple Cy Young Awards mean much (seems foolish to me to argue against him, but to each his own), but this statement about people being fired simply isn't true. And it wasn't during the playoffs. It was in the middle of the season. But no one was fired and it was pretty blown out of proportion.

Anyway, my guess of who we'll see inducted in July (not saying these are my personal choices, but who I think the voters will choose):

Cox
La Russa
Maddux
Glavine
Thomas

Very close (maybe 65+ pct of the vote):
Piazza
Biggio
Morris

Also, guessing Torre and Steinbrenner get close in the December vote, but might have to wait three more years.

I believe the mid season debacle you are referring to involving the Braves expanded strike zone was in 2000. That was about them making the catchers box wider than regulation so the catcher could set up way out side to get the outside ball called a strike call. Nobody was fired for that. The Braves TV and radio crew did get banned from flying with the team after that though.

[almostdone]

My question is about Maddux. He is an obvious shoe in but does anyone think he could get the highest % of all time?

Currently Tom Seaver has that distinction. It was Ty Cobb until Seaver toped him but to date Nolan Ryan and I believe Cal Ripken Jr. have also topped the Cobb % mark. I always have wondered if anyone could top the Seaver number.

My only guess with players we know of it might be Maddux. He dominated for such a long time, was a WS champion, friend to the media and adored by his fans. He never really rocked the boat but went about his business day in and day out. Sounds an awful lot like Seaver so maybe there is a chance.

Any thoughts?

Drew