SGC will now slab Rebacked N172 Old Judge Cards.

[GoldenAge50s]

I have recently acquired an OJ that I THINK has been skinned, like maybe one thin layer. I haven't handled any OJ's in several yrs, but it just seems the one's I had back then were a bit thicker.

Is there a way to tell w/out having another OJ to compare it to?

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

I have recently acquired an OJ that I THINK has been skinned, like maybe one thin layer. I haven't handled any OJ's in several yrs, but it just seems the one's I had back then were a bit thicker.

Is there a way to tell w/out having another OJ to compare it to?

Hello Fred, if your OJ is paper thin it has been skinned. You are essentially left with the thin and very fragile albumen photo paper. Cheaper cards from the same timeframe, often actress cards, are sometimes donated to the cause of providing a good cardboard backing to a cherished baseball subject resulting in a "rebacked" card. I myself have never done this.

[h2oya311]

I have an Old Hoss Radbourn OJ (rebacked) that is on its way back from NJ w/ an Authentic (Rebacked) designation.

I did not ask for any special treatment, but I guess my timing was perfect, since it looks like the policy only recently changed. I assumed they were already doing this...silly (and lucky) me!

[GoldenAge50s]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Hello Fred, if your OJ is paper thin it has been skinned. You are essentially left with the thin and very fragile albumen photo paper. Cheaper cards from the same timeframe, often actress cards, are sometimes donated to the cause of providing a good cardboard backing to a cherished baseball subject resulting in a "rebacked" card. I myself have never done this.

Hi Joe--

No, it is not paper thin (there is more than just the photo itself)--it has SOME of the cardboard backing--I just don't think it's as thick as the OJ's I owned a few yrs ago. I sold them all & hence have nothing to compare it to.

Were some OJ's actually thinner than others straight from production? (Kinda' like some T206's vary in length w/out being altered in any way)

Thank you for your reply!

[Jeffrompa]

Authentic for a re-backed card is fine as long as there is full disclosure .

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa

Authentic for a re-backed card is fine as long as there is full disclosure .

There will be full disclosure on the slip as noted from the email from Bob Luce at SGC:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

...We have decided to start encapsulating rebacked N172 Old Judges as SGC Authentic with a “rebacked” notation on the third line.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

Hi Joe--

No, it is not paper thin (there is more than just the photo itself)--it has SOME of the cardboard backing--I just don't think it's as thick as the OJ's I owned a few yrs ago. I sold them all & hence have nothing to compare it to.

Were some OJ's actually thinner than others straight from production? (Kinda' like some T206's vary in length w/out being altered in any way)

Thank you for your reply!

I am in no way a expert in OJ's but have a few (including a single Gypsy Queen) and the only noticeable difference I have seen in thickness has been on the rebacked ones I have (I have not owned or touched a single skinned card so don't know the thickness on one of those).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I am in no way a expert in OJ's but have a few (including a single Gypsy Queen) and the only noticeable difference I have seen in thickness has been on the rebacked ones I have (I have not owned or touched a single skinned card so don't know the thickness on one of those).

In my somewhat limited experience rebacked cards come in a variety of mediums and thickness. Some are done poorly and others are barely able to be discerned. I have owned several, some were good, some not so good. I have owned a few skinned ones too. OF course they are thinner...

[h2oya311]

Very disappointed!

Just got my submission back from SGC and my rebacked OJ was not graded Authentic. After this thread I thought it was a done deal. Guess not. It was a poor rebacking job, but it looks like authenticating rebacked OJs is not cut-and-dry. Need to make a phone call today.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

Very disappointed!

Just got my submission back from SGC and my rebacked OJ was not graded Authentic. After this thread I thought it was a done deal. Guess not. It was a poor rebacking job, but it looks like authenticating rebacked OJs is not cut-and-dry. Need to make a phone call today.

The new policy didn't take place until the day of the email which was the 21st. You posted that your cards posted to the SGC website on the 21st, meaning your card was probably graded prior to the change in policy (even if by a day).