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Old 08-24-2013, 09:55 PM
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I never said it was your fault that you saw it. Don't put up a red herring. I am questioning how it was in the interest of the Board to publish it when you know Greg sent it expecting it to be private.
Question all you want to Peter. I posted it because I didn't think it was funny. My guess is that most of the other members didn't think so either. As far as it being in the best interest of the board, I thought others would like to know how Greg thinks. So I posted it. I have already got one email from someone commenting on the subject. And they and I agree. It wasn't funny.

BTW, you guys can keep commenting if you want to. The drunk is gone and I am most likely not commenting anymore in this thread. I would rather move on to positive stuff.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:59 PM
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Question all you want to Peter. I posted it because I didn't think it was funny. My guess is that most of the other members didn't think so either. As far as it being in the best interest of the board, I thought others would like to know how Greg thinks. So I posted it. I have already got one email from someone commenting on the subject. And they and I agree. It wasn't funny.
Whether or not it was funny has nothing to do with the issue and you are smart enough to know it, Leon.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:01 PM
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Leon, if somebody response to one of those emails from a board PM it shouldn't come to you. It should go to a dead box somewhere or be returned undeliverable.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:08 PM
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Everyone would like to move on to positive stuff. When the moderator posts a private message because it happens to be a jab at him -- and again, for the red herring crowd, I am not questioning that he received it by mistake -- I think it needs to be vetted.
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Everyone would like to move on to positive stuff. When the moderator posts a private message because it happens to be a jab at him -- and again, for the red herring crowd, I am not questioning that he received it by mistake -- I think it needs to be vetted.
Why? It's Leon's board, he pays for it, he moderates it...his patience with idiots is far beyond what I would have if it were my board. If he lost a little patience in this case I can certainly see why considering what Dave Terwilliger posted was far out of bounds, and to see another forum member privately giving kudos to that post would have my blood boiling.
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Why? It's Leon's board, he pays for it, he moderates it...his patience with idiots is far beyond what I would have if it were my board. If he lost a little patience in this case I can certainly see why considering what Dave Terwilliger posted was far out of bounds, and to see another forum member privately giving kudos to that post would have my blood boiling.
From my years here Leon prides himself on not exercising any special privileges as a moderator, which is why this seemed out of character to me.
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From my years here Leon prides himself on not exercising any special privileges as a moderator, which is why this seemed out of character to me.
I'm pretty sure he's human, and not a robot, but I could be wrong about that.
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Why? It's Leon's board, he pays for it, he moderates it...his patience with idiots is far beyond what I would have if it were my board. If he lost a little patience in this case I can certainly see why considering what Dave Terwilliger posted was far out of bounds, and to see another forum member privately giving kudos to that post would have my blood boiling.
+ 1 million. If Peter and Greg don't like Leon's sandbox, let them find another one to play in. As for Terwilliger, I hope Leon has reached his tolerance for him.
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Why? It's Leon's board, he pays for it, he moderates it...his patience with idiots is far beyond what I would have if it were my board. If he lost a little patience in this case I can certainly see why considering what Dave Terwilliger posted was far out of bounds, and to see another forum member privately giving kudos to that post would have my blood boiling.
I personally do not care about whether the pm got posted, but I will say when I first got on this board Dave took some really nasty shots at me and I really never did anything to provoke him, but for the sake of clarity I did defend myself.
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It seems to me Schwartz took some nasty shots at Leon... All things considered, I'll take Leon's side on this one hands down...

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Hi Leon,

All I can really say is that I am glad that you are not a neighbor of mine that lives a couple of houses down from me - From what you revealed to me in a private message - you're the type of guy that if the mailman mistakenly put my mail in your box you would open it and read it.... Principle?

I can also say that secretly reading people's personal emails is not a good business plan either. You may get away with it, you may slide by - that still does not change the fact that it is not good business. Especially if you own a message forum, an auction house and wheel & deal on eBay....?

New questions:

1. Do the other moderators have access to people's "mistaken" private messages?

2. Leon, if one were messaging back & forth with another person and the other person replied "mistakenly" would you then in turn be able to read the whole dialogue?

3. How long have the moderators been aware that you have the ability to read private messages and have you ever discussed what you have read in peoples private emails with the moderators in the past?

Lastly Leon I have no qualms with you personally - I think you have done great things and are doings great things.... It's just that secretly reading people's emails is creepy. It doesn't matter who it is, even if it were my mother... It's still creepy. Ethics?

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