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07-17-2013, 09:39 AM
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OK...I retract my previous statement as google/ebay searches don't reveal much of anything with this card!!!!!!!!
But I am positive the sunset version is much tougher than the non. Perhaps a new poll for those owning an e90-1 miller...which one do you own? 
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07-17-2013, 09:51 AM
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I own 2 no sunset... dave, there are only 51 total graded versions of this card so we are already up to 10% of the pop....we will soon see!
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07-17-2013, 09:53 AM
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I currently have 1 of each...another no sunset I own(ed) is in Lee's current Sterling auction...and I have owned another non-sunset that has since flown the coop! I had to actively seek one out w/sunset...and I feel lucky to have it.
I'll do more research at the national...unfortunately the e90-1 sets on the psa registry dont contain any pics so no way to know what those are. Last edited by ullmandds; 07-17-2013 at 09:55 AM.
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07-17-2013, 10:05 AM
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From a non-collector of the set--- it seems to me that the artwork on the Miller evolved or progressed over time. In looking at Pete's collection of the various Millers with this pose, the E90-1 card is the only one showing the card without a sunset. It also is the only one showing the player with lighter colored shoes and cap. Its "sunset" is the only one (other than Mino) to show only red and orange solid--the others have some yellow tints, and it is the only one (again except for Mino) that lacks even a hint of blue shadow by his feet.
Seems like the artist(s) kept adding things during and after the initial e90-1 no sunset, and therefore perhaps the sunset variation came from a later (shorter?) print run of e90-1?
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I don't know Pete--I'm not an E-card guy (gasp) and am just theorizing. Seems to me that the exact dating and order of the E90ish caramel sets is not set in stone--aren't many in the late 1908 to 1910 range? It just seems apparent to me with the various changes to the Miller card throughout the several sets that there were multiple print runs of e90-1 and that this is a separate card created on purpose rather than any inking variation. It also looks like things were being added rather than subtracted so that the no sunset was likely first.
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07-17-2013, 10:18 AM
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red run
maybe they noticed how the red ran into his uniform and decided it looked bad, so they changed it to contain no red...
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07-17-2013, 10:26 AM
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I hope Pete doesn't mind that I pilfered his scan from another thread to show the various changes:
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