Future pre-war card scam...

[yanks12025]

If you guys cared so much, why not just pay the $10 for them and destroy them.

[UOFLfan7]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

If you guys cared so much, why not just pay the $10 for them and destroy them.

Good idea, except it would be a waste of $10, and in today's economy...well you know haha.

Anyways, I don't agree with what the seller is doing, but I understand that he isn't breaking any laws. He/she is simply selling empty PSA and Beckett cases. What the buyer does with them has nothing to do with the seller. Its a shame that we have to even have a conversation about this, and what I mean by that is, its sad that forgery is so common nowadays and that there are so many people trying to deceive others.

There shouldn't be anything wrong with the seller is doing, but there is and that's because of how common forgers and conmen and conwomen are in this hobby. I wish things were different, but you always have to be cautious when collection baseball cards. That's one reason the hobby isn't what it used to be. I still love it, and I count myself as someone new to the hobby (Started collecting last year after I got a bunch of cards for my 17th birthday...not even a fan of baseball, but I love baseball cards haha), so I know how hard it is to get into collecting baseball cards. I made many mistakes last year, buying fakes and reprints. You know what they say though, learn from your mistakes, and that's what I did. Read up on baseball cards, joined this forum, and started a pretty good relationship with my local hobby shop owner.

As I said though, forgers are really killing this hobby and making it hard for people new to the hobby to get a good start and not feel helpless.

Just my two cents on this entire thing though, everybody has their own opinions of course..

[oldcardboard]

Originally Posted by UOFLfan7

Good idea, except it would be a waste of $10, and in today's economy...well you know haha.

Anyways, I don't agree with what the seller is doing, but I understand that he isn't breaking any laws. He/she is simply selling empty PSA and Beckett cases. What the buyer does with them has nothing to do with the seller. Its a shame that we have to even have a conversation about this, and what I mean by that is, its sad that forgery is so common nowadays and that there are so many people trying to deceive others.

There shouldn't be anything wrong with the seller is doing, but there is and that's because of how common forgers and conmen and conwomen are in this hobby. I wish things were different, but you always have to be cautious when collection baseball cards. That's one reason the hobby isn't what it used to be. I still love it, and I count myself as someone new to the hobby (Started collecting last year after I got a bunch of cards for my 17th birthday...not even a fan of baseball, but I love baseball cards haha), so I know how hard it is to get into collecting baseball cards. I made many mistakes last year, buying fakes and reprints. You know what they say though, learn from your mistakes, and that's what I did. Read up on baseball cards, joined this forum, and started a pretty good relationship with my local hobby shop owner.

As I said though, forgers are really killing this hobby and making it hard for people new to the hobby to get a good start and not feel helpless.

Just my two cents on this entire thing though, everybody has their own opinions of course..

Yes forgers are not helping and neither are the people selling kits to help make thier job easier. For what, a few extra bucks? If you need money that bad, find another hobby, like maybe work.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

If you guys cared so much, why not just pay the $10 for them and destroy them.

It is an auction, not a BIN. $10 is just the opening bid. I have a feeling they will sell for quite a bit more.

[oddball]

Ugh. Stuff like this makes me vomit in my mouth.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It is an auction, not a BIN. $10 is just the opening bid. I have a feeling they will sell for quite a bit more.

He had them listed before and no one bought them.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

If you guys cared so much, why not just pay the $10 for them and destroy them.

then the next guy will post them.... by buying them you will create a market for them.

kevin

[Fred]

Well, if there's one thing to consider. Anyone that knows Jim knows that he's never let a money making opportunity get by him. This is a bit disappointing...

[ramram]

Originally Posted by Fred

Well, if there's one thing to consider. Anyone that knows Jim knows that he's never let a money making opportunity get by him. This is a bit disappointing...

Nor will he likely see this thread. I don't think he has ever posted outside of the Buy/Sell section.

Rob M.

[JMANOS]

They could have cared less when I called. I thought they would have wanted them to have an accurate population report?? All I asked for was a free $12 dollar submission. I was treated very poor by the customer service folk at both company's. Maybe you people should question them? Lastly, I have a special needs person sell items for me and his spelling is weak to poor so I am sorry you have to read his description. Many of you know I do this with special needs folk.

You can bash me all u want but YOUR grading services should be smarter then that and take some responsibility. I don't collect cards I sell them, sorry.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

They could have cared less when I called. I thought they would have wanted them to have an accurate population report?? All I asked for was a free $12 dollar submission. I was treated very poor by the customer service folk at both company's. Maybe you people should question them? Lastly, I have a special needs person sell items for me and his spelling is weak to poor so I am sorry you have to read his description. Many of you know I do this with special needs folk.

You can bash me all u want but YOUR grading services should be smarter then that and take some responsibility. I don't collect cards I sell them, sorry.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I had a similar experience. I drank a twelve pack of Bud and afterwards called Anheuser Busch to see if they were willing to buy their empty cans back and I was treated rude by customer service. Those damn companies!

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Yeah, I know what you mean. I had a similar experience. I drank a twelve pack of Bud and afterwards called Anheuser Busch to see if they were willing to buy their empty cans back and I was treated rude by customer service. Those damn companies!

LOL David.

Jim, that makes no sense are you sure you’re not the one with special needs here (kidding)?

Please explain why it would it be a company’s responsibility to give you a cash discount off new services for handing over broken packaging from previous services?

Do you do this with other companies as well like David joked about? Do you go back to Wal-Mart with your empty Oscar Meyer packages at checkout and ask for a few bucks off the total purchase of your new hot dogs for the big picnic? To put it in more regulatory terms do you return your old driver’s license and or passports when you get new ones and ask for a few bucks off? Sorry but I’m having a hard time following your logic.

I do agree with you that TPG’s if they are going to have population reports should make an effort to keep them maintained to the best of their ability. But that doesn’t mean they should pay you for it they don’t have a recycling program I don’t see homeless dudes with shopping carts full of PSA cases trading them in for booze.

As far as you listing them whatever it’s a free market you can list and sell whatever you want. I can see people’s concerns. However I think are bigger concerns to be had than some beat up broken cases on eBay being sold for a few bucks.

I just fail to see how this is being turned back to the TPG’s as their problem, when it’s just a case of single person trying to make an extra buck off worthless garbage…which is basically eBay in a nutshell.

Cheers,

John

[smtjoy]

Funny blame the grading companies, lol. Ok then just throw the labels away, end of story. Then there is no worry that someone will try to reseal the slab with the real labels, which is what's causing everyone to get upset.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

They could have cared less (Should be "couldn't" have cared less) when I called. I thought they would have wanted them to have an accurate population report?? (Why the question marks??) All I asked for was a free $12 dollar (Why are you using both a dollar sign and the word "dollar"??) submission. I was treated very poor (poorly) by the customer service folk at both company's (Do you mean "companies"?). Maybe you people should question them? (Why the question mark??) Lastly, I have a special needs person sell (selling) items for me and his spelling is weak to poor (Do you just hate inserting commas?) so I am sorry you have to read his description (descriptions). Many of you know I do this with special needs folk.

You can bash me all u want but YOUR grading services should be smarter then (than) that and take some responsibility. I don't collect cards (How about a period or comma here?) I sell them, (How about a period here?) sorry.

First of all, anyone selling these cases is an obvious scammer. He knows EXACTLY what someone is going to do with them. F##k him!!

But what I find hysterical is how he blames someone else for their spelling, but just ignores the fact that he himself has no grasp on the English language (see notes above). And I only took a quick glance.

[the 'stache]

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

First of all, anyone selling these cases is an obvious scammer. He knows EXACTLY what someone is going to do with them. F##k him!!

But what I find hysterical is how he blames someone else for their spelling, but just ignores the fact that he himself has no grasp on the English language (see notes above). And I only took a quick glance.

anyone that uses mispellings as a point in their argument is really fishing for just about anything to help make their case or point in an argument about someone else.

it really has no bearing on the logic in ones actual argument.

i could care less if i mispell something by accident. most of the time it is just a typo and i really know how to spell the word. i have more important shit to do than to correct every little thing i type throughout the course of a day, especially when its outside of work.

i also don't capitalize stuff for the simple fact that i don't really care to. i write code so doing that in mixed case is a waste of time.

kevin

[baez578]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

They could have cared less when I called. I thought they would have wanted them to have an accurate population report?? All I asked for was a free $12 dollar submission. I was treated very poor by the customer service folk at both company's. Maybe you people should question them? Lastly, I have a special needs person sell items for me and his spelling is weak to poor so I am sorry you have to read his description. Many of you know I do this with special needs folk.

You can bash me all u want but YOUR grading services should be smarter then that and take some responsibility. I don't collect cards I sell them, sorry.

That's about the worst excuse to justify the sale of items that facilitate illegal activity on eBay.

If you want, I'll give you the $12. ship them to me and I'll report sn's to psa sgc. Then, I'll burn slabs and post vid on forum for all to see.

Btw , you say you sell cards....these aren't cards...they're slabs!